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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago (3 children)

We should ban all apps that harvest personal data.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, I'd be okay with that but this bill doesn't even ban TikTok. It forces ByteDance to sell TikTok or face being banned. Our leadership is fine with out data being endlessly harvested by megacorps, but they don't want China to run one of the megacorps doing it.

It's kind of funny really, because even if China/ByteDance sells TikTok they could just switch from harvesting personal data directly with TikTok to buying all the data harvested from TikTok and other platforms just like the USA already does.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

China already buys everything Meta and friends are selling.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All Meta sells are ad placements. They do not sell user data.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago
[–] Marthirial@lemmings.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think it is a lot simpler in the mind of politicians: "Tiktok is popular in America but not American. How can we make it ours?"

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 6 months ago

The American government, unlike China, does not own American companies.

In fact, aren’t most big tech profits accrued in Ireland?

[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

They want to force a sell it to a group of republicans. Possibly for the profit, possibly to control the media.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Instead of banning specific apps, ban the harvest and sale of personal data itself. Then the apps people want to use are still given a chance to exist if they stop mining data.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You basically just rephrased what I said.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, you said we should ban apps, I said we should have better privacy laws. Two totally different things.

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes but it's splitting hairs... If you ban alcoholic drinks it's basically the same as banning putting alcohol in drinks. Especially for a conversation between laymen on Lemmy

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's more like we should ban the addition of unsafe additives to alcohol vs banning a specific brand of alcohol, even though most brands add it.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

That's not why it was banned though. That part is ok lol

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

There are two wolves inside you: One hates US politics, the other hates TikTok.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

It's weird how I the US every bill does like everything and I don't think that's good but also short form videos are absolute cancer and anything that reduced that is a good thing.

I hope Europe takes some inspiration from this and either forces all data harvesting companies be sold to a European owner or be banned.

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is what fascist countries do. They see something they like and say "gimme". US is such a shithole.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Tiktok is cancer, so I'm okay with this.

Edit: I'm not sure why I can't reply to the commenter that replied to my comment. So I'll quote him and reply here:

Regardless of your opinion on TikTok, you shouldn’t be okay with the government targeting a specific app.

Would you feel the same if it were Grindr, under the guise of “protecting children?”

How about encrypted messaging apps because the government doesn’t like that they can’t read messages?

This whole thing is dangerously close to infringing on freedoms over ideology, rather than just being about foreign surveillance.

TikTok is an extreme example. If it were Grindr under the guise of "protecting the children," I'd say it's bullshit. But let's not be naive here. TikTok is made and controlled by the Chinese government through a Chinese company. It's an actual national security concern, so yes, I'm okay with what they're going through right now. Deservedly so.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Regardless of your opinion on TikTok, you shouldn't be okay with the government targeting a specific app.

Would you feel the same if it were Grindr, under the guise of "protecting children?"

How about encrypted messaging apps because the government doesn't like that they can't read messages?

This whole thing is dangerously close to infringing on freedoms over ideology, rather than just being about foreign surveillance.