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[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 65 points 6 months ago (1 children)
  • asking for Diablo 2: Resurrected treatment
  • getting Warcraft 3: Reforged treatment
[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fuck blizzard. Ruining Warcraft 3 was unforgivable.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 17 points 6 months ago

with all the talk of “WoW killers”, WoW players agreed that no game could ever do as much damage to WoW as Blizzard …

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 42 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No. Leave them alone Bethesda.

They're still playable. Leave them be.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 17 points 6 months ago

Bethesda creates bugs, they don't fix them.

[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You don't like the car disappearing and losing all the stuff you threw in the trunk forever?

I kid, cause even with the bugs fallout 2 is my absolute fav

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[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 23 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Bethesda can't do it. They don't have the skill to make a decent story anymore.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 6 months ago (14 children)

Isn't that what resurrection is about? Rework graphics, keep the game (including story)?

[–] darthsid@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Nah I’m with the guy above, I’m sure they’ll find a way to fuck this up

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[–] DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, they might if they just fucking fired Todd Howard. He's rapidly turning into Peter Molyneux and he needs to just go away.

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (17 children)

I wonder if you guys even mean these things or just parroting the same anti bathesda threads over and over

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[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Maybe a FOSS engine remake and new art/models to match.

The stats, and writing were all great and I honestly wouldn't really want it touched.

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This exist already for Fallout 1 & 2 and is great! Fallout 2 Community edition: https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout2-ce

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[–] Titou@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

I would really love a FOSS Fallout clone like Minetest for Minecraft.

[–] Crismus@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I wish Microsoft would force Bethesda to share their toys with other people.

Todd Howard is the epitome of the egotistical rich wannabe need who takes his toys away if someone does something better than he does.

Gamers love Obsidian's rushed bullied New Vegas better than 3, make sure they never get another chance to let someone else into their sandbox.

They try to copy Mass Effect's dialog system and voiced protagonist to do "something new" it backfires. Fallout 4 has no real tied story to it besides a few lines from a single quest from Fallout 3. The Factions are a copy and paste job based around an AI system so they don't have to write content.

I find it wasetul of Microsoft that they Purchased a studio and IP worth Billions and will allow them to gather dust for over a decade without any ROI? Why aren't they starting to force Bethesda to make something with the Fallout IP.

InXile should at least be allowed to remaster Fallout 1. They have Brian Fargo still there to oversee it. It all reminds me of Doctor Who taking a break when they were at their peak popularity, then coming back after losing most of their fans.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

MS doesn't care about ROI or the games. They just want to control big studios and ips so they can force people into that Xbox ecosystem. Monthly subscriptions are where the money currently is at. And if they can dominate games they can shape the future to ensure more people stay in the MS product line.

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[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Not by Bethesda. Otherwise they'd sell us bottle caps.

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[–] root@aussie.zone 11 points 6 months ago

We need a Command & Conquer Remastered style treatment.

[–] JayEchoRay@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I really would not like Bethesda level writing and character gating to muddy the classics. I seriously doubt it will do the old series justice with the level of inappropriate content.

Easiest examples being the thieving children in Fallout 2, it allowed you "solve" that problem if you didn't have patience and got a negative quirk in the process.

A low intelligence run was almost a completely new experience with a different level of interaction that was tongue-in-cheek look at someone who really struggles with "standard" game narrative.

That not to mention how much of a mess it will be for bethesda to code for a player plus up to 5 party members per encounter ( making Charisma not a "dump" stat). I strongly doubt they can pull it off if it as a company is still struggling to make the player character plus 1 work smoothly.

I also feel that the old fallout's sense of humour might not fly with today's sensibilities specifically the level of objectification, a female character can use to their advantage or the level of "male power fantasy" with specific perks and SPECIAL loadout - which I am sure is something Bethesda will try to avoid as they seem to push for a more gamified systems.

And I really do not think they will be willing to make The Brotherhood play a minor role as they are like a "minor" faction that tries to avoid too much attention in setting in their mission to preserve the old tech from repeating the mistakes of the past

I strongly doubt Todd and his team are the right people to devote resources to truly capture the dark world of old fallout into a faithful reproduction. I think it would be toned down and would most likely follow a bethesda vision for the series.

Maybe I am being overly negative, but I feel even if they maybe revamped it with some prettier graphics and modern system sensibilities, it might still lose some of its soul in the process. I am willing to be proven wrong though

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

For the unintiated, things you can do in FO2 has that would not be allowed today:

  • child killing
  • pornography producing
  • gravedigging
  • slavery
[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I'm pretty sure you can do all of those things, including selling children into slavery in fallout 4 and new Vegas

[–] JayEchoRay@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Bethesda's version is toned down

  • Cannot kill children in Bethesda games (without modding)
  • Fallout 2 dealt with some realities of porn, learnt about terms like being a fluffer if are not fit for porn and if you had the skills it provided a pretty salicious perk image and a stage name among a couple of other changes. Sex referencing was used quite a lot in game - sometimes disturbingly so at times.
  • Gravedigging fair enough, there is a perk one gets in fallout 2 that hits you with karma penalty when you do it but otherwise point taken
  • Joining the slavers in Fallout 2, you get branded with a facial brand telling the waste "Look at me, I am a Slaver" which had the effect to lock a character out of quests and be automatically branded an enemy of the NCR - which is a choice that can be made in the second town.
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[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bethesda should make Fallout Tactics canonical. That's right, I said it.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

[Terrifying Presence] No only Brotherhood of Steel.

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

Ah, it's fine. I think the important part is keeping these games runnable on modern systems. I think D2 resurrected did a pretty good job of this, and the time is right since Fallout seems to have exploded in popularity.

[–] StrutTower@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I always loved the sprites used in Fallout Tactics and wished there was a way to back port them for Fallout 1 and 2 or upgrade them to a similar style

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