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[–] squeakycat@lemmy.ml 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I've known enough people that have gotten injured or died from cars that I am also against them. However, I go the other way and heavily encourage building more, separate bike paths. Fuck cars.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 24 points 6 months ago

As always, paint is not infrastructure. What we need is bike lanes that are actually, physically separated from the road. While I've seen a pretty optimistic share of drivers not drive in the bike lane, there's still an unfortunately high amount of people who gladly will.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 15 points 6 months ago

Completely agree. Also, sharing the road with cars just sucks on general: noise, smell, sudden gusts of wind.

I really love what the Minneapolis area did. There used to be railroad lines all over the place around here, and many of them have been turned into walking/bike highways, connecting a vast network of off-street (separated by grass) paved paths. I can ride from my house in the burbs to the co-op in the local town and be on streets only through my neighborhood to get to the nearest rail-trail. It's only 8 miles to the store, but still - entirely off street, dedicated walking/bike paths.

It's one of the things I love most about this place, and coming from the Philadelphia region, it's a little awe-inspiring.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 7 points 6 months ago

Yeah. I always try to check when crossing bike lanes but we need the ones that have a physical barrier b/t the roadway and bike lanes.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 13 points 6 months ago

I don't like bike lanes either. For the same reason I don't like driving.

Cause you can't trust another driver. As others mentioned, proper infrastructure would make bike "lanes" a thing of the past. Where I live we have multiple bike-trails that go through the city but IMO it's still only partially decent enough, because every 1.5 blocks is a crosswalk, so you're risking it going over 15mph (slightly faster than a casual biking speed) or wavering your speed between 6 and 15. Which is fine but seems to defeat the purpose of having a trail specifically for bikes.