Joncash2

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[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (22 children)

But unfortunately the US government has proven your vote doesn't matter. Especially for foreign policies like not genociding people. Who do you vote for to force a cease fire?

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

The fact that the US can't repeal a horrifying violation of international law is well... I think we've made a full circle. When the US says ANYTHING we shouldn't believe them and should doubt them.

I think we got off on the wrong foot. My statement wasn't actually about Russia, it was about the US and how horrible they are and how the world really needs to think twice before agreeing to anything USA says.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So you think giving people freedoms to drink and go to bars is a bad thing?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/saudi-arabia-opens-first-liquor-store-rcna135597

And yes I'm fully aware of Khashoggi. What I'm saying is all people all governments have good and bad. I can easily agree with many things that awful people do. It doesn't make them any less awful, but I'm not so ignorant to be opposed to something just because an awful person says it.

So to hate a good idea just because of it's messenger is ignorant at best and harmful at worst.

The reason I bring this up is because in USA it's becoming more and more like this. That regardless of what the policy is, the only thing the stupid politicians care about now is who the messenger is. And it's doing incredible damage to the country.

Now, obviously you're just making a statement. I don't really disagree with it as I think MBS is a horrible human being. But I really don't like the idea of agreeing or disagreeing with someone based on the person saying it.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (26 children)

It's not what they said. It's an actual bill. We nicknamed it the Invade Hague act. We literally have a law that says we will kill Europeans if they investigate our war crimes such as murdering children. Even the Australians recently took away medals for the horrible war crimes they committed.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (28 children)

Well unfortunately there are no international courts of law that USA would submit to. The only one, the ICC, they have literally threatened to invade if they did any kind of investigation into the GENOCIDAL CRIMES of the USA. So your argument that a court should prove it is moot since USA would nuke the court. Which is why I also find it hilarious that USA talks about rule of law when they actively threaten to wipe Brussels off the face of the earth.

*Edit: Oh man even Harvard is mocking them for that.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/ksikkink/blog/%E2%80%9Cinvade-hague%E2%80%9D-%E2%80%9Csupport-icc%E2%80%9D-america%E2%80%99s-shifting-stance-international-criminal-court

Also, I'm not talking about USA as in it's people, I'm talking about the US government. Sorry I did not make that clear. After all, it's not Joe Schmo talking about RT spreading propaganda.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

This is absolute proof that the US knows China won't invade. If the US thought there was even a slight chance that the invasion would happen, they would have not sent garbage. Especially since they keep calling Taiwan the unsinkable carrier and how important Taiwan is to protect the first island chain. So the only 2 possibilities are that:

  1. It's not actually important to the first island chain (which we know it is, that's why China even cares about it at all).

  2. US has no concern what so ever of China invading.

So now we know it's absolutely the US trying to start a conflict with China to invade Taiwan. They want this kind of news to leak out so China would be emboldened to attack.

*Edit: And if anyone says it's about semiconductors, you don't understand how semiconductor manufacturing works. Any violent conflict would pretty much result in a total destruction of the semiconductor factory.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (30 children)

I think your either avoiding what I'm saying or misunderstanding. This whole conversation is based on USA accusing Russia. Just like your axe murderer accusing another murderer. The whole point is when your a psychotic genocider, your opinions and statements should be rightfully ignored.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (32 children)

The problem with your hypothetical is that it doesn't exist. The information is coming from an axe murderer and your just magically asserting the family is real and what he says is real.

The problem is when your an axe murderer, I no longer trust you. Just as we shouldn't trust the USA because they do all the bad things they say others are doing. It's an accountability issue. Which is if you want to say your a good guy, you kind of have to actually be a good guy.

*Edit. This is why I said innocents get caught up in gang wars but the police can't do anything because the source of information is gangsters

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (34 children)

When you understand both are whataboutism because it's about the deflection not the action or the accusation, you'll understand whataboutism.

And how do I know he has kids? I'm gonna trust an axe murderer?

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (36 children)

It's saying it's deflecting against an accusation. It's clear your not able to understand basic things.

Your idea that someone who disagrees with you is a right winger proves this to me.

Finally you have no idea what the family did. It's why in a court of law we have laws about facilitation or accessory. But I think that will go over your head.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago (38 children)

Your article agrees with me. But it's clear I'm not going to be able to explain it to you.

Are all those involved in gang wars guilty? Probably not but it's still wise of the police not to get involved.

And similarly, yes the axe murderer who just murdered the other guys family and is asking for help. I'm probably gonna ignore him.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 weeks ago (40 children)

You clearly do not understand whataboutism. It's when someone uses someone else doing the same thing as an excuse. If Russia does it it's OK for USA to do it. That's whataboutism.

And yes. Let the criminals kill themselves. That's why USA doesn't really do anything about gang wars.

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