RedClouds

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[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As I mentioned in my other reply, that was actually what signaled me to come here and make this post because it was such a darn good video! And then they had to just go and ruin it by being like "nope sometimes we put our heads in the ground too", and like... Ugh... damn it this is why I'm not a liberal anymore.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 5 months ago

That's actually literally what reminded me of it. And then my head went down this entire spiraling track and I was like, I gotta write this down.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 5 months ago

These people have no fucking shame. It's like they explained what American social media is to a T and then they were like, "but China actually".

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Those CIA declassified articles always shock the hell out of Liberals.

them: but Stalin was a dictator!

me: Stalin wasn't a dictator, the CIA said so.

them: NO WAY

me:

them: ... but.... but.....

me: Okay you sit on that new info for awhile. Took me awhile to come to terms with these things too

Doesn't always work though, they never have a good response, they just don't always "get it". Usually we'll be talking later and they'll go back to their old habits and I have to remind them that no... no no, that's wrong...

Cognitive Dissonance is painful for sure.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 6 months ago

Good distinction. China hasn't been behind in AI in general, just this new LLM stuff. But China also uses it's AI for more useful things instead of just advertisements and recommendation engines, though I'm sure they use it there too. But yeah, China is catching up on LLMs, and fast. The chip war has affected their ability to get faster chips, and catch up even faster, but the tech they have is sufficient, and improving faster than westerners predicted (As it always does, the west is WAY to confident in itself and WAY underestimates China's abilities)

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's an important distinction yes, it uses a lot of smaller models added up. I haven't been able to test it yet as I'm working with downstream tools and the raw stuff just isn't something I've set up (Plus, I have like 90 gigs of ram, not..... well) I read in one place you need 500 gb+ of ram to run it, so I think all 600+ billion params need to be in memory at once, and you need to use a quantized model, to get it to fit in even that space, which kinda sucks. However, that's how it is for Mistral's mixture of experts models too. So no difference there. MoE's are pretty promising.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 6 months ago (7 children)

This isn't a super surprising result. Even American companies have been talking about how China is quickly catching up in the AI space. And if Americans are admitting it, you know it's true. Also, anybody who's been watching the open source scene has understood that the Chinese models are very competitive. There are many many leaderboards comparing things, but Qwen, built by Alibaba cloud, is constantly at the top of the list. In fact, in one list that I'm watching, the Qwen-based models encompass the top 20.

Then, of course, they have their own closed source language models, so a little harder to test against, but by most accounts, they are right behind ChatGPT and Claude.

DeepSeek V3 is an exceptionally large model, so it's a little hard to do direct comparisons exactly, but it's blowing the things out of the water, and that's pretty crazy.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 7 months ago

I see that was his real intention all along, huh?

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago

Since I'm not an ML engineer specifically, this article from huggingface (The worlds most popular source for all AI model hosting, and all AI data for training, think of it as github but for AI, if you are familiar with github) will do it justice more than I can: https://huggingface.co/blog/mlabonne/abliteration

Long story short, there is a small (by comparison to the total size) part of the language model that's in charge of "refusal" if it detects you are asking something it shouldn't answer, and you can almost eliminate that layer completely by itself. Once that is done, the model won't refuse to answer anything, though it might still give context like "This is really illegal, but sure, here's.... (whatever you want)". Sometimes Abliteration can take out the intelligence of a system, so you have to train it back up again.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 7 months ago

That was some of the most lucid shit I've ever read from libs.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 8 months ago

How bad would west mainstream news freak the fuck out if this was proposed in China.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 8 months ago

Is this an effort to try to reach out to the Liberals using alternative-family adjacent words?

"I'm poly" might just mean something very different in the future...

 

(Reposted since this is a better community for this)

Even the liberals are starting to catch on that China is outpacing the United States in terms of EV production and quality. This is a shot from one liberal to another that they are failing to meet the market demands, and China is doing much better than us.

This person actually calls out the USA’s protectionist policies and claims that they aren’t here to protect users, but to prevent their car companies from being completely out-competed by China.

 

It's time to put my money where my mouth is and buy some flags.

I don't want to have to support Amazon if i don't have too. But if thats the best way, so be it, recommendations on high quality flags from amywhere welcome.

I was going to search history, but im mobile atm and I can't find search for posts.

Also looking for who I can donate to that will actually get supplies on the ground. I knew of one but cannot for the life of me remember the name. Life has pulled me away from politics for awhile, trying to get involved again.

Thanks for resources comrades.

 

But when someone finally does, they think they've gone crazy for not agreeing with their politics.

TLDR less than a year ago I decided to get real serious about researching what communism actually is. Now that I'm a communist (Because doing the real research opened my eyes to a better system than capitalism, and ML seemed to be the best way to go about that), my family is questioning whether I'm like, in a cult or not? I dunno, they aren't saying anything specific, just pushing back hard any time I prove their liberal media bubble lies to them.

I've opened up a politics channel on our family chat, and every time I post something about media bias, anything questioning the status quo about China, Cuba, or North Korea, it get's scrutinized to the level of a pseudo-journalist combing every "media bias" website looking for any reason whatsoever to prove that my source is wrong (Besides, you know, just actually finding the evidence or anything). Last week a family member shared the NK story about censoring jeans... I did push back, and immediately they caved about the story and pivoted to moving the goal posts with "Well North Korea is just a dictatorship so whatever they say can't be trusted", then when I asked if they knew anything about NK they said "How can we? It's so suppressive they won't tell us anything", which there are resources out there, they are genuinely hard to find, but I ended with "Welp they are opening up soon so you can see for yourself". Not a single one of them knows what a politburo or peoples congress is... I have told them too, they seem to have selective memory sometimes.

If anyone posts anything from the BBC, CNN, the guardian, whatever, they give a nod and a "true true". But second thought? Nah, that's tankie bullshit, he's biased, can't be trusted... Like guys, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MEDIA BUBBLES, YOU ARE IN ONE RIGHT NOW, I'M SHOWING YOU, I WAS WITH YOU A YEAR AGO, I GOT OUT, YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME.

It's as if "media bubble" to them meant Fox news, or ONLY conservative news. But they watch the "real news" like NPR, CNN, MSNBC, BBC. So they are fine, it's not their media bubble that was the problem. One of them admits they ONLY READ HEADLINES (Well, 95% headlines anyway), and claim that "reading news is their hobby". Like... dude, you don't read the news, you said it yourself, YOU READ HEADLINES. I sent them Second thoughts video about biased headlines and they're like "But all sources do that". And I'm like "YES THEY DO, PLEASE BE CONSCIOUS OF THIS FACT AS YOU ONLY READ HEADLINES THEN CLAIM YOU KNOW THE STORY FROM IT. AHHHHHHHH I feel like I'm going crazy :( I even tried offering my ground news subscription. I know it's baby steps but I figured they would be interested, no bites yet.

I can't push too hard or I just won't ever see them again, but at this point, is it worth it? I'm nearing 40 btw, not young. We are all grown adults. I spent so long going through this transition of learning/growing, so I know it's not fast. The older you are, the harder it is to change, especially your biases. But still, I did it, I hoped they would too. Right now they are truly practicing the backlash effect.

Thanks for listening to my rant comrades. May your propaganda efforts not be in vein!

 

So I was just doing a bit of research about some science advancements in graphene processors, as I heard about it in a segment about China's recent research breakthroughs. I did some googling and found... let's say a slightly biased perspective (Just kidding, it's straight up propaganda)

So this is the research paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2308.12446.pdf

Notice how there are 12 researchers from Tianjin University in China, also notice how there are 3 researchers from Georgia Tech, this includes one american author who co-founded this research center with person in china. So this is a joint effort. He's actually listed as also being a part of Tianjin University, so I guess 13 to 3 people in each respective university (one person double counted).

If you google for "graphene seg semiconductors" you get:

  • Georgia techs website first, okay.
  • A couple links to the article on arxiv and nature, cool,

And then, a bunch of news articles:

Well damn, with 13 out of the 15 researchers having affiliation with the lab in China, you would think that someone would emphasize that this research was done... In China? Not just "helped" by China, not just "assisted by", but like, most of the research was done there. On paper this was a partnership, but most sites won't even go that far. Georgia Tech did this/that/was awesome/yay america, oh and some place in China was involved too, only sometimes mentioned.

My god, it's as if Usonians just can't swallow the fact that China has scientists... and researchers... and like, smart people. As a Usonian who is breaking out of my media bubble, it's crazy to me to see how fucking biased our "neutral" sources of information are. Wikipedia hasn't been updated with this info yet, but I bet it will mark down all the awesome work Georgia tech did while only mentioning in passing that some place in China was also involved.

I'm not even gonna bother posting this to a lib space like reddit. The copium would be too much for me to handle. The only thing I can think about is if the tables were turned, no lib would have a problem calling out "CCP propaganda" after the first sentence of the article claimed "Tianjin University in China does breakthrough research on graphene processors!"

 

As a city design enthusiast who has been thinking about car-based infrastructure Longer than I've been thinking about communism, I am curious to hear the story from people living in China about daily commutes or just getting around for daily activities in a major Chinese city.

By the way, since this isn't a communism-specific question, let me know if there is a particular social media that you think is great for asking these kinds of question without getting sinophobic nonsense. For now, this is about the only place I think I'm going to get a good answer Ha ha.

So back to the question. Specifically, I'm thinking about people living directly in the city, but then also living on the outskirts. Are there things like suburbs in China? I definitely have heard about cities and rural differences, but I haven't heard of anything along the lines of suburbs or what those suburbs look like.

China has the best high speed rail in the entire world, as far as I've ever heard. I think Sweden has some good high speed rail, but it doesn't serve 1.4 billion people heh. But do they have more regional trains? Do they have commuter trains? Is it basically just car-based commuting? Are there massive traffic jams during rush hour like you would see in the West? Is biking very popular? And or electric scooters, electric bikes, segues, or other micro-imability transportation?

Okay, that's a lot of details. If you have a link to a blog that has talked about this, I'll totally read through that as well.

 

This is a lib source, but iFixit is trying to, within the capitalist system, change things. It won't work, but eh, I at least usually trust them when they say a product sucks.

These are the worst, irreparable, ad-ridden, who-asked-for-this-garbage, at CES 2024. I bet no one here would buy any of this, or be excited that BMW will come out with ad-glasses for your driving "pleasure", but it's kinda funny (In the so-sad-its-funny-not-funny way) that they are even trying.

Anyway they have lib answers to this, "contact the ftc", as if they have any fucking teeth, or contact your state legislatures, as if they aren't already paid off... Whatever, they aren't commies but at least it's kind entertaining in a dystopian way.

 

I'm trying to learn more about modern day China, the recent history of China, and the material conditions and contexts that bring certain things into the popular news media.

I watch BreakThrough News occasionally, and this video came up today, and from my inexperience it seems to be a decent, neutral look at a small part of China's public infrastructure compared to the U$A, where I am.

The hosts go back and forth sharing details about cost and goals and some political theory, so I'm interested in the more experience views of people on here. Is there anything that is left out that is important enough to mention? Are there any controversial topics in this video that one might miss if they aren't informed?

Thanks for helping out a comrade learn!

 

So apparently the mods at bonehurtingjuice decided to protest by becoming a commie sub, but actual commies are now posting and commenting, pushing out all the normal content.

The reaction is hilarious, if you have time and want to engage with reactionaries, come check out and support our comrades on that sub. Assuming you still have reddit.

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