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Boarded and murdered because someone "resisted". Then we spend all of our time litigating if there was any actual physical resistance.

Buddy, I understand you'd really prefer if that was my position but I've told you repeatedly its not. It is either an insulting lack of reading comprehension or willful ignorance that you keep insisting that's my position. Let me spell my position out for you:

• FPV drones are an effective form of munitions.
• Ukraine relies heavily on FPV drones for its defense.
• Without them Russia would've been in Keiv many months ago.
• FPV drones are made cheaply by volunteers in Ukraine.
• Ukraine's claims of having an FPV drone shortage could just be propaganda to motivate their own populace to produce more.

This is all I have ever tried to claim. But you somehow keep wishing I was some pro-Ukraine lib because in that fantasy you can win some internet points.

If it can drag out the war then it's actually effective even if its only to buy them time to negotiate.

its like you don't even know what your own words mean.

not effective at accomplishing anything other than dragging things out.

Flapping my arms when I fall out of a plane is more effective than not flapping my arms.

then they're by definition not effective at accomplishing anything other than dragging things out.

they're by definition not effective except at being effective defense.

It does matter how effective the drones are if the drones are the most effective thing the Ukrainians have. And your still trying to have a completely different discussion about whether its enough to win the war.

Basically we get a very public temp check on Israeli restraint. They have all the time in the world to know this is clearly bait and make sure its handled quietly. But chances are they won't.

Why are you assuming that I'm arguing Ukraine can win the war? I'm just saying that this is really just propaganda to mobilize more production of FPV drones. Is me questioning you on that enough for you to make such assumptions?

This is precisely what I was referring to when I was talking about the artisanal mode of production in Ukraine.

And that by definition makes it not a wunderwaffe. You cannot make wunderwaffes in your kitchen.

Sorry but thats just copium. Shit like this has been perfectly normal in any remote US outpost since WWII.

You're completely missing my point. The FPV drones are Ukraine's best weapon. And they need more of it because the west won't provide them with the artillery they need. So these drones are their best bet.

Also the FPV drones Ukraine is actually making aren't wunderwaffes. They're made as cheaply as possible in people's kitchens as volunteer efforts. Just look at the pictures from the article you can can see they aren't gold plated bullshit like the predator.

Frankly any army will constantly complain about being short on their best weapons to drive up production. AFAIK the fpv drones are the only thing they have really going for them.

For a second I thought they actually tried to deport the immigrants via a shipping container and somehow were stupid enough to get in with them. But now that's what passes for temporary housing at the Djibouti base. It sounds like it sucks ass at that base in general.