commiunism

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[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

My god, stop putting words in my mouth that I'm some kind of anti-communist as a whole due to not recognizing China as being Socialist. Sorry for viewing things through historical materialism and it not passing the sniff test I guess.

That comment was referring to the private model which, you're right, is not the exact same in execution but it's remarkably similar in principle given both systems' state dominance in key economic areas with the co-existence of private ownership.

Fascist Italy did hold a significant portion of state ownership in heavy industry/shipbuilding/banking/infrastructure by 1930, so it wasn't entirely driven by private ownership. China economy isn't necessarily public either (at least depending on who you ask) given how it's state owned with state acting as the surplus-extracting capitalist and having the final say rather than collectivized and owned by the workers.

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Relax, it's just a joke given how the image essentially is "communist is when many trains, capitalism is when one bad train". Making a reference to Mussolini, one of the most famous liberals of all time is always gonna be funny

pretty much how I got into my first relationship lmao

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's not even that, given how there's a decent chunk of their economy owned by private individuals

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 day ago (17 children)

It's not a stretch, it's outright false to call it communism or socialism, systems which necessitate the abolishment of capitalist mode of production (commodity production, private ownership, markets) and money. China, meanwhile, literally has billionaires, still produces things under capitalist mode of production and the only oddity it has compared to other Capitalist countries is partially nationalized economy (which Mussolini has also done, it's not socialism by itself).

It's just a social democracy.

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Communism is when trains run on time

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"Trad" likely refers to legal guardianship of the past, where women were essentially the property of men with no legal autonomy.

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

Yeah, it's a play on the fact that modern day China and its "socialist qualities" that ML's use to claim the country is socialist are remarkably similar if not identical to how fascist Italy worked.

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Critical support to Mussolini for nationalizing the economy/means of production (it's called socialism liberal you wouldn't get it)

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Coal mining is awesome though, not sure why anyone would learn how to do coding instead

 

Would YOU make out with trotski?? 😳

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm gangsta like that

 
 

Probably satire, still funny given how it's the mindset of most liberals even today.

 
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