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[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm far from being Christian but to be fair you're ignoring centuries of philosophical and theological debate about those

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Castrato is just Italian for castrated or neutered, even used with animals albeit mostly used referring to males. Sometimes it's even used figuratively. It would still work perfectly with your example, I think

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really surprising. That last part "tard" comes from the Latin tardus which basically means slow or late. The "re" particle originally just had a meaning of repetition, in this case. So being late (not for the first time? ) So changing the first part of the word wouldn't change the meaning of it so easily. Maybe technically something like "intard" could make sense in that way (similarly as what you find in words like indomitable, impossible, ineffective etc), but it doesn't really exist. Or if we want to make it more meme-like, tarden't?

Protarded actually exists as a slang with completely different meaning, but that's out of scope

Overall useless information for most, but anyway

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The base is not bread. Even your definition doesn't call it bread. It's pizza. And a random American dictionary is hardly a source.

Also, pizza is older than tomato in Europe...

Here's an Italian dictionary, if talking with an Italian wasn't enough

https://www.treccani.it/vocabolario/pizza/

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What defines something as pizza is the base, not the toppings. Of course there are some common and more classic toppings, but those include also no cheese pizzas

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Pizza and bread have different preparations, cooking, and sometimes they are even made with different ingredients. Certainly you wouldn't say pasta is bread too only because it's made with flour and water, for example

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I explained more in detail in another comment here, but to be short I can list some like pizza farcita, focaccia, marinara etc

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

In Italy cheese is absolutely not required, even if Margherita is the most common base so most pizzas have cheese. Even so, there are many types of pizza with no cheese, and many others with no tomato.

It's also very common to see pizza farcita, which you can imagine as a pizza sandwich. For example a very common one is "pizza e mortazza" in Rome, which is a pure puzza with no topping but filled with mortadella (a type of ham). But various kinds of fillings are possible

Another example would be focaccia, most of them don't have any cheese at all.

There is even sweet pizza with no cheese, for example pizza with Nutella

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If your pizza is same as bread then you're eating terrible pizza, I'm sorry

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Plenty of them are, but of course depends on taste. One of the most common and classic pizza is without cheese (marinara). So plenty of people like it

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

That specific word in Italian has multiple meanings, one of which being something like "excessive/useless detail or addition, especially when done for the cool factor only" and another being "gayness".

Without the full context of the sentence, it's very hard to say what he meant or what he was saying.

Of course the word is still originating from the slur and shouldn't be used by the pope, but it's technically possible that wasn't even used in relation to any minority (just as much as the opposite)

Unless I missed some extra info or source that has the full context, it's hard to say

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (42 children)

I'm still waiting the rest of the world to find out that there are so many types of pizza with no cheese

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