It's interesting that we have documented cases of homosexuality in thousands of different species, and yet not a single other species that practices Catholicism.
Being gay is more natural than being Catholic.
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It's interesting that we have documented cases of homosexuality in thousands of different species, and yet not a single other species that practices Catholicism.
Being gay is more natural than being Catholic.
There's this saying “a fish is caught through its mouth,” and this is an illustration of what it means. This pope might present this ‘cool’, ‘modern’ image to the public, but his words spoken in private amongst his peers reveals his real stance about these things.
Edit: proofreading.
Former Catholic, now atheist. I’m glad the Pope is making some progressive steps in the Catholic Church including the LGTBQ+ community.
I hope this was a misstep, and the case of a 90-year old man from a different country using language that he was not aware is a slur. I really really hope that, or else all that good will was for nothing.
Don't hold out hope
I'm so glad the pedophile ring is invluding the lgtbq+ community. They are so nice and progressive. If i were gay, the first thing i'd wish for is that the pedos like me.
I "meet" a gay religious Catholic once online and my brain is still recovering from it.
Why? Why? It makes no sense.
Get raised catholic, turn out gay. What's to make sense of? Lots of religious followers cherry pick the bits of text they like and disregard the rest, why should gays be any more rational?
I can't think of a single institution that has done as much damage to the LGBT as the RCC.
Intentional? Or old man being old?
The dude is ancient; half his vocabulary as a child is probably a slur by this point.
This is something more people need to remember.
The level of casual racism and sexism in the past is staggering when looked at from today, but was no big deal at the time.
"Mr. Mom" a movie about the insane idea of having a man doing childcare, came out in 1983.
"Fu Manchu" with Peter Sellers doing yellowface came out in 1980.
For context the gap between "Mr. Mom" and The Dark Knight is 25 years. The gap between The Mummy and today is 25 years.
Yeah I don't know if you could make Three Men And A Baby today because the premise "lol men doing childcare, amirite? This is gonna be gold" just isn't funny anymore. Millennial men are much more active and engaged fathers than previous generations.
It might be nicely subversive to make a modern reboot of Three Men And A Baby that's just Clerks but one of them has his son in a thing on his chest. Three 30 year old men competently care for an infant without incident while sharing pithy if relatable dialog.
People always say that satire is dead, but they don't realize that it took subversive with it.
Go read the Ian Fleming novels about James Bond. Or don't. By page count I think about 1/3 of the books are just his bigoted rants
At least.
There are people I am willing to give benefit of the doubt to about certain issues and people I am not. You are right, old age happens, and I am positive some word I am using today will be a slur in the future.
The thing is I will have a lifetime of evidence proving what I was about, so people will assume good faith.
But I guarantee people will still call him "Cool Pope."
It's all been an act.
He is the "cool pope"... when compared the literal Nazi one before him or the sexual predator protecting one before that. They are all horrible, this one happens to be the least horrible in a long time...possibly ever. Less horrible is still horrible.
That's like saying Kim Jong-Un is the "Cool North Korean Dictator." It really doesn't mean much.
Exactly.
“The one who protected sexual predators” really doesn’t narrow it down 🙃
So, instead of saying, "Catholic seminaries were already too full of [bundle of sticks]" instead he meant to say that "Catholic seminaries were already too full of homosexuals". I'm not sure fixing the one word helps his message or is actually even the problem.
The term he used is being censored on here so I used a substitute.
For those wondering, the word can be roughly translated in english as ::: spoiler Faggotry :::
Esit: can't figure out how to mark something as spoiler correctly
Noun - - frociaggine - - (plural frociaggini)
(...)
(vulgar, derogatory) f a g g o t r y
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https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/frociaggine
FYI I think your reply is getting automatically censored due to the slur even though you’re just trying to provide context
You mean the whole thing? Or just the word?
Just the word. Says “removedry”
Ok that's actually quite funny, can you give me a screenshot?
Yup, here you go
Looks fine from here, must be your instance.
The spoiler is also broken for me, but that's my client.
Thanks!
The woke pope ain't that woke
well, compared to the last hitler youth....
This really isnt any different than Grandpa calling the cashier at the Piggly Wiggly a 'colored'.
The leader of an oppressive organized religion? Using slurs? Say it ain't so!
FUCK THE POPE, the old geriatric fuck.
I heard many bishops were offended and took it as a personal attack.
Few things, 1 He has done a lot for the LGBTQ community when it comes to the church ( allows the community to be blessed in church, supporting them to join the church).
2 I'm sure these was released by a "concerned" bishop instead of someone pissed at him.
3 Fuck all religion but the leaders need to follow his public example and support the LGBTQ community. Instead they stoke the flames. Be as rasicts, homophobic, or whatever as you want in your private life, I dont give 2 fucks. This coming from someone that looks white but is mix and grew up in Tennessee. Its when they try and push their shit on everyone else that i have an issue.
wow he's so great, he let's LGBTQ people exist in the church's vicinity.