niucllos

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[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

I think they meant the moral failure rather than the election failure fwiw

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 32 points 8 months ago

Seriously, do people not remember that the government shut down for like a month and how much chaos that causes? That Trump did something insane that made the stock market plunge like three times, each time causing the factories near me to lay off 10-20% of their line workers with no warning in panic? Like even before COVID things were really unpredictable and hard

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I meant she should have been Bernie-style grandstanding about it and hammering it home and making it a core part of her campaign more than it not being in her plans at all. I feel like she started with that kind of message and was doing well and ended with the Cheneys like me and ill put a Republican in my cabinet and lost

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (16 children)

Sure, but if she had spent her few months promising to tax the shit out of Elon Musk and other billionaires I bet people would have been more excited and actually showed up to vote than when she promised to keep the course and also appoint a Republican

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand how the rhetoric this time didn't hurt him there tbh, he didn't change it really

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 27 points 8 months ago (3 children)

They hang out here because America is currently one of/the best wealth engines on the planet and they can afford to avoid the shit parts. Once either of those stop they'll go somewhere else that's nicer

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago (20 children)

One example does not a rule make, and in the US electoral system money (and the party affiliations that bring it) speaks loudest of all. Maybe going further left wouldn't work, but going further right certainly hasn't. When Harris first emerged as the candidate she had such a swell of support, as she moved further right she lost it.

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There is some panicking prompted by the horrible things he's promised to do but probably can't, but:

-He got Roe v. Wade overturned, stripping rights from Americans while also being responsible for a 3% increase in infant mortality in the US, the first significant increase in decades

-about as many people died of COVID as voted for Jill Stein, and while Trump isn't responsible for all their deaths he significantly worsened the problem.

So I'd say beyond shit

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Not in a lot of states they weren't

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

I don't agree that she had no platform other than I'm not Trump, but she certainly shifted right as the race went on and lost more and more support as she did it

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think Harris played it better than anyone had so far with handling Trump. I think her fatal mistep was believing there were hordes of rightwing never trumpers who could be swayed. She had so much momentum when she first stepped in and people thought she'd be further left than Biden, she pivoted further right than him and probably got less votes. Being a POC woman certainly didn't help either.

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 68 points 8 months ago

I mean, the projected winner maps aren't the US government's decision, it's what whatever news your watching has modelled as settled with an acceptable margin of error based on current information. Realistically they could have called most of the states months ago with that same error, some organizations just veil it more

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