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[–] DeLacue@lemmy.world 4 points 26 minutes ago (2 children)

Multiple regulatory bodies are going to get disbanded. The EPA is unlikely to survive, whole departments of the FDA are about to get gutted. Anything involving industrial safety is going to get its funding cut. Unconstitutional crackdowns on free and independent media is almost certain. Large scale damage to the functions of many government institutions can be expected. Massive economic damage due to reckless deregulation ( that's even before they start putting tariffs on everything and wind up in multiple simultaneous trade wars). Funding for education and infrastructure maintenance will be reduced to allow tax cuts for the already wealthy. Massive loss of global influence and a massive gain in influence by hostile autocratic nations is also something you can expect.

I could go on and on but even if you were to assume they weren't serious about project 2025 (if you haven't read that you should) it's real bad.

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[–] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 3 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

If you're a white Christian male you are the shit.

Anyone else is losing rights

Also Trump will declare martial law after 4 years with presidential immunity and every position of power stacked with handpicked loyalists.

Unless there is a revolution of some kind the US will probably go the path of Nazi Germany after Hitler achieved total control

[–] seeyouatthepartyrichter@lemmy.world 2 points 31 minutes ago

Inb4 Trump’s Nazi base on Venus.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Who cares, it's what they want and what they voted for, AGAIN. I'd be more concerned about the rest of the world. America can go off in a puff of smoke and it would be the best thing the ever did

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 points 58 minutes ago (2 children)

Except your trade would be hindered. Russia would plow through Europe. The power vacuum made by America "puffing up in smoke" would be so great and horrific it would probably overshadow WW2 total deaths.

[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 54 minutes ago

The Rise of Trudeau

[–] Giorgsen@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 2 points 43 minutes ago

Lmao these are their publicly stated goals, take your head out of the sand

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

We should remember that most Americans still live in blue states with sane governments. The federal government can't just barge in and do whatever it wants, and if tries to do so, the social contract that binds the nation together is broken and secession becomes a real possibility. But that's unlikely because Trump is far too clueless to know about any of the problems he'll run into if he tries to implement any of his plans.

Which is fine for him because it was always a con anyway. He talks and acts out of his ass. What he will do is anyone's guess, but it'll at least be restrained by what's realistically possible.

[–] DeLacue@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago

I'd love be as optimistic as you but unless Trump changes his mind the US will get a brainwormed fanatical anti-vaccier in charge of deciding which vaccines are safe to use. Even if the states don't cooperate with trump's agenda there are so many long standing federal institutions which till now you've never needed to think about that are about to get wrecked.

[–] Lennnny@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And what about the ones, like me, in red states? How fucked are we? (I know the answer and hence drunk and high rn)

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 hours ago

Join us in the PNW! We have legal weed!

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 8 points 4 hours ago

And what about project 2025. That total teeheee not our plan teeheee thing …

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 15 points 4 hours ago

The US is just as fucked as everything and everyone else, which is 100%

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's actually likely to be better as long as trump waddles on. He's just so god damn bumbling that even with all the cards, he'll find little ways to not get his shit done.

Mind you it won't be enough, and it will be god damn fucking horrific. But decidedly less smooth while Narcissism Jones keeps grabby-handsing the wheel from his handlers and derailing his own goals.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

He seems to lack competence in many ways, but some of the guys around him are a whole lot more conniving and potentially effective.

It's also not likely Trump feels any urge to hire a somewhat moderate(ish) cabinet of professionalls like he did last time. I assume he learned his lesson given that they all eventually turned on him.

So let's see. I think he's spent the past 4 years surrounding himself with some bad hombres, to borrow a saying, and now he's ready to act with fewer guardrails.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

anywhere from not really, to literally world war 3.

trump is a loose cannon.

We do not win here.

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[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 19 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Trump was pretty ineffective in his first term, largely because he did a terrible job of supporting people who really agreed with his agenda, and an even worse job of removing people from influential positions who didn't.

He said during his campaign that he knew much better who to trust, but now he's got Elon Musk and RFK Jr. prominently featured. I don't think he has learned anything, and I think he will be just as ineffective this time.

It's possible that some of the Republicans in Congress will support more of his agenda, but even there if they have to overcome the filibuster, I don't think mass deportation, a federal abortion ban, or most of the rest of the potential worst of it is in the cards.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 36 minutes ago

I reckon that in all likelihood the Project 2025 folks will piss him off at some point and he'll just throw a tantrum and refuse to work with them. Doesn't mean he'll suddenly turn into a leftist, but if he doesn't play ball, they'll have trouble getting anything passed.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 26 minutes ago

They'll kill off the filibuster as soon as it gets in their way. They don't care about tradition or institutional continuity. And anyway, the Democrats seldom resort to the filibuster, they just bend over.

Trump and Musk will have a power struggle within a few months. Trump hates the idea that someone's richer than him, and will want to humiliate him. Trump will dump RFK Jr too, as soon as Jr gets more publicity than Trump. What will be semi-permanent are the careerist shitstains like the Speaker, the God-botherers with their crusade against women, and the anti-immigrant scum.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

It depends...

Do you think Jimmy Carter has seen the season 4 finale of Breaking Bad?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago
[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago

depends on how much of his immunity he chooses to exercise. also be intrtesting to see how many of the new repuglicans fall into line with his shit policy

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 28 points 9 hours ago

Honestly who knows, it's literally on the whims of the giant toddler and who he listens to last that afternoon.

[–] scala@lemmy.ml 33 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm more scared of the JD Vance than Trump. He's much worse

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 25 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I’m worried about this too. It wouldn’t be surprising if Trump dies in the next four years. Vance is not qualified for the job. He’s smarter than Trump though so scheming would be much worse.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Vance himself is irrelevant, the problem is he's an errand boy for the would-be technocracy.

The world is on the precipice of an unbreakable tyranny, and he wants to give the keys of power to the ones making the drone armies.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 5 hours ago

This is why I've argued that technology, in terms of actual benefit for people, peaked many years ago. I won't try to pinpoint a date, but we have past peak technology from this perspective.

After that peak, advancements in technology have mostly just served as means to control the population or extract more from us (see enshittification) and have not been of benefit to the average person.

Technology allows for actual hard power to be concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer. I don't mean like a dictator with an army behind them, but a dictator and small group with enough tech to control everything. You are right, and it's extremely concerning.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 41 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Weirdly, it depends on how honest Trump is.

If he forgets about everything he talked at any part of the campaign, and just decide to maximize his tranquility during his term, not as bad as if he decides to keep his promises.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Trump has never kept a promise in his life

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Then we are good.

Hopefully.

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 23 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

I'm hoping he just focuses on enriching himself. Clearing his convictions and then lining his pockets with more NFTs and corruption. That'll keep him sufficiently occupied to not fuck too much with the lives of everyday people.

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