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submitted 3 months ago by MacNCheezus to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think you're looking at it wrong, it doesn't forcibly include the other participant, the usage you're talking about does the opposite

We [our shared group] don't do that. We [me and my group] don't do that.

You can interpret it both ways - the first means "you broke the rule of the group", the second means "you're not one of us because you're not following our rules"

It's visceral because it gently tickles the "fear of exclusion" part of our brain

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's an interesting take! After thinking a bit more on it, I think that it's going both ways, depending on utterance:

the speaker into the hearer's group ("how are we going today?"), for fake camaraderie;
the hearer into the speaker's group ("we don't do that"), to manipulate the hearer's behaviour

The later would work as you described, but the former also exerts some pressure - because rejecting someone from your group is a face-threatening act for both sides (i.e. "you're not one of us" is shitty to say for the hearer but also for the speaker themself).

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 3 months ago

Ah, I see what you were getting at now. Like "where are we going tonight?", it's a mirroring of the same concept, I think it's fair to call that forced inclusion. Like you say, directly excluding someone is rude, so forcing that choice is pretty manipulative