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On Wednesday evening, Ukrainian MP Oleksiy Honcharenko said the Ukrainian army had established control over the Sudzha gas hub - a major gas facility involved in the transit of natural gas from Russia to the EU via Ukraine, which has continued despite the war. It is the only point of entry for Russian gas into the EU. 

Although this has not been verified by the BBC, Mr Honcharenko's comment was the first confirmation of an incursion into Russian territory by a Ukrainian official. Kyiv had previously not commented on reports of a cross-border attack.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is the only point of entry for Russian gas into the EU.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

But that gas goes through Ukraine. They could have stopped it at any time.

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Cut off tail of snake and it will eventually grow back. Cut off head of snake and it cannot grow back.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everybody beheading snakes until the octopus arrives.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah then you just remove the beak

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

?

By blowing it up and causing an ecological disaster in their own country?

There should be cut off valves where they could have done it safely, but this is Russian built, they used positive power coefficients on their nuclear power plants...

You can't count on common sense safety measures.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

There are definitely cut-off valves. Ukraine already considered cutting off the gas but decided not to.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sabotaging a gas line does a lot to damage your own position because natural gas is VERY toxic. Controlling the source though is ALL power

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's shutoff valves, they don't need to blow it up. That's why the story about Russia supposedly blowing up nordstream never made sense either.

[–] grozzle@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They would be liable to be sued for massive amounts for breach of contract of they just shut it off normally. The pipe destruction got them off that hook.

(i'm personally not 100% sure who did it, but there were realistic reasons for Russia to do it)

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sued in which court, which would enforce it how exactly? Russia is already doing a whole invasion in breach of international law, (Putin is a defendant personally for war crimes) and the West has basically already sanctioned all assets within its reach.

[–] grozzle@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

sure.

i didn't claim the Kremlin to be the most rational people in the world.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

It makes sense if the idea is that they want to force EU to use (fund) the new pipelines elsewhere.

[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

That's a direct pipeline, it seems. Goes straight to the EU.

There's a different pipeline (maybe several, not sure) going through Ukraine.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sabotage all the metering, etc. and let Ukraine and EU receive as much as they can for free.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

And then just hold it. If Russia tries to reclaim it, they end up bombing their own pipeline.