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Any techbro that says "meatspace" is a timelessly spectacular level of cringe. :kombucha-disgust:
I'm a tech bro that says meatspace, partly cause like comrade Ligma_Male said it emphasizes that what happens on the internet is still real, partly cause meatspace sounds cyberpunk as fuck, but mostly because it makes it easier to revitalize the term "cyberspace" as its corollary and that will always make me think of 90s TV writers trying to write about technology they dont understand and youth lingo they don't understand
can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Online/offline is probably fine enough if "real" is too dated, which it probably is. To me, reducing life itself to "meat" is both reductionist and sort of :im-vegan: hostile at the same time, kind of grotesque and diminishing with the implication that an internet connection magically makes things enlightened and transcendent by comparison.
The "meat" refers to the things that humans are made of and has nothing to do with :im-vegan: people unless they've developed cell walls and chloroplasts recently. Online/offline are adjectives to describe state, not the places themselves.
i dunno it's better than "real life" etc implying online interactions aren't "real". That's how you justify shitty takes about harassment
So offline activity ("offline" isn't a bad term IMO) is "meat" in some reductionist way which aggrandizes online activity while diminishing life itself into meat and that's fine? Pass. I'll just call it offline if "real life" is too dated.
what, you're not made of meat?
My point, again, is that it sounds reductionist and dehumanizing to me. Sure, within some cliques I'm sure it's hip and cool to say but I don't think I'm the only one that may not like it outside of that.
"meat space" is a pair with "cyber space" where we do other things besides cybering in our robes and wizard hats. the reduction is deliberate and if that's meaningfully dehumanizing to you when it's not about a minority group or specific person I guess we need to talk about why dehumanizing all of humanity simultaneously is a problem.
i'm not over here referring to the non-cyber world like that constantly but I also really don't understand what motivated the doing of enough analysis to have a problem with it. For me at worst it's merely cringe.