this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2024
132 points (99.3% liked)
chapotraphouse
13541 readers
829 users here now
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Gossip posts go in c/gossip. Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from c/gossip
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Why bother making a hexbear account when you're just going to be banned for being a liberal
Kaiserreich detected, also it's liberalism regardless
Ogey...
Just to ask, do you believe in countries like Vietnam, Laos, or Cuba, or even Bolivia
If you can't, then even tho you may not a liberal, economically, or culturally, I think you are a liberal at heart, when it comes to foreign policy... aka you tow the U.S state department's line, when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' countries
I'm afraid because of such matters, you might get banned over this
I'm new here, but I didn't do anything wrong I think, I just stated my opinion
If I did something wrong please enlighten me
As far as I'm concerned, the community has somewhat of an anti-imperialist or 'anti-western' stance, which then extends to a concept of critical support for global south countries
Critical support, which is public support for an anti-imperialist, if not socialist nation-state, despite one's personal criticism of such (eg. Venezuela, a GLOBAL_SOUTH socdem state, with potential revolutionary energy; remember, it's not necessarily under one party of PSUV than it is, as a popular front)
(You ought to remember Chomsky did support some socialist and socdem states in the Global South, right?)
My question is a litmus test
If you can't sympathize with even one existing socialist state like Cuba, against America, who has committing economic blockades against such countries, then welp...
You can choose lemmy.ml, lemm.ee, midwest.social or any other social media to find other like-minded leftists, who don't necessarily focus on such topics...
Lmfao imagine equating communists with capitalists and dictators and saying it doesn't make a difference, are you a lib?
I said CALL them what you like, the CPC always brands itself as communist, while funding capitalist privately owned cooperations
Would you support the vast number of state owned enterprises in China?
I would, if the people actually had to say something about it, but guess what, they don't
You know this how? Have you been there?
Know what? I didn't make any claim, you did.
You believe it's a one-man dictatorship entirely disconnected from the workers, which IMO requires more proof than the opposite. Believing the reverse is simply easier because of being born an American
I made no such claim, I just asked you why you were so confident you were right, and what evidence you had for your claim, that's not claiming you're wrong.
pure western chauvinism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeyXMvdHSjU
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
They need to make money so they can continue to raise the standard of living in their country. Their capitalists don't control their society nor do they have any power to influence the government. How else do you get to socialism without doing socialist things?
yeah, problem being that you can't trust capitalists and they'll just put that money in their own pockets
Which is why China has raised the standard of living steadily over the last few decades? I mean where else do you think they got the money to build the cities, infrastructure, power plants, etc.? What actually do you know about China beyond "they have capitalists so they're bad"?
would post China Has Billionaires but I am in despair so I feel this person won't read it, and I'm so fucking tired of getting an instantaneous dismissive reply that indicates they didn't even click on the fucking link
EDIT: I wound up posting it in another part of this thread with a couple other links for them to ignore. I wish there was a way to say "hide replies to this post" so I could avoid seeing a handwaving liberal reply three minutes later
EDIT2: guess I'm just going through some shit right now sorry
It's such a good essay, I didn't even need convincing before because the proof was always there but after reading it completely makes sense. Yeah like obviously capitalism bad but the government isn't run by capitalists like they are in the West, it's a matter of transitioning (if you read theory you'd know this), and they are indeed on that path. What's crazy to me is that they'll probably achieve their goals faster as the planning gets better.
capitalists don't have that much power in the gov. that's the difference
they forced tencent to donate hundreds of millions (billions now) of dollars
read this https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/
posting this here for those who might click on these links and read
from https://redsails.org/why-marxism/
from https://redsails.org/brainwashing/
from https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/
Don't despair when the lib you're talking to ignores your well thought out response. Instead, look at the people lurking and reading the thread and not commenting, and what they see. They see you provide thoughtful and insightful statements backed up with evidence, only for the lib to either ignore it entirely or just dismiss it with a handwave (and obviously not even reading it). Even if someone agrees with the lib and not you, it still isn't a good look for their "team" to be so smugly and proudly ignorant.
the last three or four weeks have been fucking ghastly. we are ruled by demons
Truly, and it's mind blowing to see people run defence for them, insisting that those that oppose them are the real demons, while claiming that they oppose the powers that be are "just as bad" despite never actually willing to commit to their own claims about what they would do if they were living in the exact situation they claim to despise.
Said lib has taken to posting about those mean hexbear tankies all over the anti-communist parts of Lemmy (and also for some reason lemmy.ml's anarchism comm). This was never about good faith discussion and all about getting in a pissing contest here then whining about it elsewhere.
Yeah, they show up every now and then so they can whine about "censorship" or mean evilbad tankies. It's so pathetic.