They need to make money so they can continue to raise the standard of living in their country. Their capitalists don't control their society nor do they have any power to influence the government. How else do you get to socialism without doing socialist things?

[–] ttttux@hexbear.net 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

yeah, problem being that you can't trust capitalists and they'll just put that money in their own pockets

[–] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which is why China has raised the standard of living steadily over the last few decades? I mean where else do you think they got the money to build the cities, infrastructure, power plants, etc.? What actually do you know about China beyond "they have capitalists so they're bad"?

[–] miz@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

would post China Has Billionaires but I am in despair so I feel this person won't read it, and I'm so fucking tired of getting an instantaneous dismissive reply that indicates they didn't even click on the fucking link

EDIT: I wound up posting it in another part of this thread with a couple other links for them to ignore. I wish there was a way to say "hide replies to this post" so I could avoid seeing a handwaving liberal reply three minutes later

EDIT2: guess I'm just going through some shit right now sorry

[–] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 months ago

It's such a good essay, I didn't even need convincing before because the proof was always there but after reading it completely makes sense. Yeah like obviously capitalism bad but the government isn't run by capitalists like they are in the West, it's a matter of transitioning (if you read theory you'd know this), and they are indeed on that path. What's crazy to me is that they'll probably achieve their goals faster as the planning gets better.

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

capitalists don't have that much power in the gov. that's the difference