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[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Honest question, am I being too cynical in thinking the Dems are running on abortion rights this time purely as a way to juice turnout, or did Roe getting overturned and their base's reaction to it actually change it into being a priority? I know they had half a fuckin' century to "try" and pass abortion rights as law and passed on it every time including a supermajority in Obama's first term where the Obungler said "it wasn't a priority," but I feel like the liberal electoral base for the Dems was shocked and pissed by SCOTUS striking down Roe in a way that the party was unprepared for.

I know a Harris administration won't have a Senate supermajority or House majority most likely so it's all hypotheticals and SCOTUS or the parliamentarian or some other bullshit would block it if they did, but I feel like liberals finally realized how fucked they are trying to accomplish anything they care about now that the SCOTUS is fucked for decades with no plans of impeaching Thomas/Alito/Kavanaugh or packing the court. The Dem's base is desperate to "get back to normal" on reproductive rights, and the party has no real path to accomplishing that. I know a decent chunk of libs will be satiated by just having "vote harderer" scolded at them and having candidates just say "I support a woman's right to choose," but a lot of them are pissed that the Biden admin did jack shit trying to fight SCOTUS other than putting out statements saying they disagreed with the ruling. Is reinstating Roe through federal legislation actually something they're gonna take seriously moving forward, or is it just the new shiny football for their voters to try to kick?

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[–] Roonerino@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I think the new normal is just going to be abortion rights for people in blue states, poverty shaming and saying "well they deserve it for voting republican" for people in red states. That's way easier than doing any kind of actual work.

[–] yoink@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

using abortion to control people on an individual level vs using abortion to control people on a state level

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