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One that comes to mind for me: "Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger" is not always true. Maybe even only half the time! Are there any phrases you tend to hear and shake your head at?

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 154 points 2 months ago (9 children)

"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger."

No. What doesn't kill you creates trauma.

[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah what didn't kill me gave me a chronic disease. I'm weak as hell compared to 3 years ago.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

For me it turned me into a depressed person who no longer feels emotion the way I did before. I'm 99% numb. The other 1% is manic attacks.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Shout out to my ex who started on #2 recently, as people keep telling me.

Maybe they got therapy and will be a better person this time. Maybe #2 will be the person they need. Whatever. Peace.✌🏽

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Same. But in a way, it did kill me, so maybe that's why I'm not getting stronger.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I can relate. My experience completely changed my personality.

I definitely look at the pre-depression version of myself and see a completely different person.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What doesn't kill you evolves and tries again

[–] juergen@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the same vein (and at least as dangerous): "Pain is just weakness leaving the body." No, you testosterone poisoned numb-nuts - it is your body's way of telling you that something is not right. Stop and listen!

[–] Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

With the exception when someone starts out a new sport or even manual work, like yep you're a bit achy now, good on you because that's the feeling of laziness escaping!

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yep. Gotta know the difference between being a bit sore from growing strength vs pain of damaging your body.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’m a fan of “what doesn’t kill you only serves to postpone the inevitable.” But maybe that’s a bit fatalistic.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I won't judge. Life isn't a picnic for most.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It’s not a picnic, and doesn’t have to be. Without the bad we wouldn’t always appreciate the good things in life. I’ve been fortunate, I’m living well these days, happily married, and haven’t suffered from depression in probably over a decade now (though anxiety is an ever present low buzz in the background. I’m used to it).

But that phrase is irksome. What doesn’t kill you doesn’t always make you stronger. Sometimes it fucks up your life. Sometimes it’s a roadblock, other times it’s life altering in unforeseen ways, and occasionally the consequences of what doesn’t kill is a tragic fate worse than death.

Tripping and falling might not kill me, might just lead to embarrassment. Or it could lead to CTE or irreversible brain damage from head trauma. Certainly not stronger for that sort of thing.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 6 points 2 months ago

Don't take life too seriously - you'll never get out of it alive.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Sometimes much sooner than that.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Science has proven that what doesn’t kill you (like a virus) actually weakens you. But, conversely, you become more efficient at responding to that specific thing so it only appears like it made you stronger.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

And maybe a long term disability too.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 months ago

What doesn't kill you only postpones the inevitable.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

What doesn't kill you gets exrea practice for next time.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, no, the trauma is the event itself. The reaction to it is post-traumatic stress. If that stress gets in the way of your day-to-day functioning, then it could be called PTSD (but there's like pages and pages of diagnostic criteria too).

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Always appreciate it when a pedant joins the conversation. Thank you.