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[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 62 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Highly doubt it. Iran isn't just Iraq 2.0, they have a large military. Better missiles than the US, even! Doubt the navy wants to see Kaliburs introduce a carrier to the sea floor.

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 55 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Iran should actually cook up some nukes just in case.

[–] operacion_ogro@hexbear.net 78 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Remembering that interview with a lib podcast where matt-jokerfied said something to the effect of "Iran has a moral imperative to obtain nukes" to deter US invasion and it stunlocked the hosts

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 57 points 2 months ago

Libya didn't have nukes, it got fucked, north Korea has nukes it gets treated nicely, idk what you want Iran to take from that

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It was this incredible interview with Yahoo News' podcast

https://youtu.be/leDn52N1nr0?t=252

It is a painful but funny listen, as well as the ep of chapo in which they listen back to and comment on the lib interviewers being insane. These are experienced even prolific lib journalists. The old guy broke a bunch of torture stories in the 2000s. But they are utterly cooked, they are more aghast at them insulting the west wing than the Iran nukes thing

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Korean historian Stephen Gowans (sp?) essentially shared this take somewhat apologetically on RevLeft Radio at the end of the interview, saying that the DPRK having developed a substantial stock of nuclear arms is the best case scenario.

My only point of disagreement there is that he said as much gingerly instead of with his whole chest. I suppose standing on business isn't conducive to being tenured in a shithole western country though.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I believe that was Felix on the pod Jon’s podcast, Lovett or Leavitt. It was a live recording but the pod Jon edited out a bunch of stuff Felix said for the official release. You can find the crappy raw audio files from the audience though if you look hard enough

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think the podcast was called "skullduggery." IIRC Virgil was eating a banana in the middle off the interview.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

that was a different incident— we got audio of Skullduggery, but the Pod John cowards cut Felix's comments out entirely

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There were rumours flying around that they are in testing phases for the blast charges. Once they have these it's just a matter of adding the enriched part.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Iran has a top 5-10 military in the world. It depends on how much you weigh being a nuclear power and whether you think Iran has nukes.

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Iran loves edging about the nukes; I think they actually don't have any, but have the materials and expertise to make them very quickly if the need arises. So if they think shit is about to go down they could prolly whip up a couple warheads and put them on whatever nuclear capable launch systems they have, or get some donated by Russia and China.

[–] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 8 points 2 months ago

It's not. But the US seems completely unwilling to rein in Israel/Bibi. I think there's a very good chance Bibi continues the escalations to war. Once Israel is at war on 4 fronts, I don't think there's any way the US doesn't put boots on the ground. Israel is already low on manpower (they've already expanded mandatory enlistment).

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Did you just say Iran has better missiles than the US? In what fantasy world are you living in?

Edit:iraq = iran

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The USA doesn't have jinking hypersonic missiles. Iran does. So, jot that down.

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honest question, but anti missile defenses don't really work (see iron dome) against traditional missiles and there is no effective way to defend against ICBMs. So what's the value of a low flying, fast missile that can't be shot down compared to a high flying, slow missile that is cheaper and also can't really be shot down?

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would say western anti missile defenses don't really work because their chief opponents have superior weapons. ICBMs can be intercepted, because their terminal path is predictable although fast. Iran, Russia, China, and North Korea all have hypersonic weapons that have the capacity to make significant trajectory alterations at hypersonic speeds in their terminal path. They cannot be intercepted.

I would say western anti missile defenses don't really work because their chief opponents have superior weapons

The Iron Dome, the magnum opus of western middle defense systems regularly fails to intercept unguided, subsonic rockets that are incapable of taking evasive action. I would not say that the Iron Dome fails because Hamas has superior missiles, it fails because shooting a bullet with a bullet is a near impossible task. Also, ICBM interception is close to a fantasy right now. The GMD works around 40% of the time in tests, the arrow 3 does not work at all, the A-235 has only been tested a few times (not in real world conditions either), and China doesn't have an anti ICBM system at all.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

America doesn't disclose it's capabilities like that. But aiight.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're right, America is super comfortable pretending to not have capabilities they actually have that other countries definitely have. All the very public reports about America's failures in jinking hypersonics and the exchange of the contracts for those jinking hypersonics to some no-name Australian company are for sure just a trick to hide that they definitely have this weapon that being public about would serve as a de-escalatory tool for dominance. You're for sure not an enormous stupid baby who believes in technical superiority that isn't real, and you're definitely not just a very mad and dumb western moron.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh wait....what the fuck lol your profile is ridiculous. Nvm. I'm outta here before I'm implicated in 3rd world shenanigans.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You started good. But then you ran out of things to stay and added the insults. Ruined your credibility. Learn how defense contracting works the come back to the table.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So what you're saying is because I didn't glaze your dick you can't reply? Are you a fucking princess? Oh no, somebody wasn't nice to me so I can't explain myself because I'm a delicate little smol bean who can't articulate my own beliefs

this is the liberal playbook: OH SHIT SOMEBODY CAME BACK AT ME WITH FACTS, BETTER INVENT A REASON I CAN'T DIRECTLY ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THAT SHIT THAT PROVES ME TO BE A REALLY STUPID DIPSHIT DUMBASS

edit: Any liberals in Houston, Texas? I think I'll only stop being mad at them if one of them wants to meet up with me in person directly face to face and I for sure won't just break their knees with a bat, like for sure for sure, I promise, definitely

[–] miz@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

pathetic tone-policing cope to avoid addressing the content. coward

[–] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago

You started as shit and just went straight down the toilet lmao.

[–] m532@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Yea phone auto correct

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Iran and Iraq are not the same.

Average .ee user

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Looks like my phone auto corrected that one.

[–] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In what fantasy world are you living in?

In... in

don't do this

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

I need something. Gimme an idea of what just happened please.