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For me, it may be that the toilet paper roll needs to have the open end away from the wall. I don't want to reach under the roll to take a piece! That's ludicrous!

That or my recent addiction to correcting people when they use "less" when they should use "fewer"

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 204 points 3 weeks ago (26 children)

If it were supposed to be pronounced "jif" it would have been spelled that way, I don't give two fucks what Stephen Wilhite said about it either.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 68 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Same with Gnome wanting to be pronounced "Gah-nome", or Latex "Latech". Just spell stuff the way you want it to be pronounced, or accept that people pronounce it another way

[–] grue@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

or Latex “Latech”. Just spell stuff the way you want it to be pronounced

But they did! You're the one who fucked it up by using an "x" (Latin letter x) instead of a "χ" (Greek letter chi).

(Also, you didn't capitalize or format it correctly. It's supposed to be rendered as "L^A^Τ~Ε~Χ", and yes, those last three letters are Τ Ε Χ Greek capital tau, epsilon, chi.)

🤓

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol, the only way to be more obtuse would be to say "our project name has no approved transliteration or Unicode string... Render this svg inline or don't talk about us."

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Reminds me of , as well as #11 in this list.

(I'd love to scale that image to the same size as the text, but I don't know if Lemmy's markdown supports it.)

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Just letting you know I appreciate that you used the actual "χ" instead of just "X" when referring to the letter Chi.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

New hill: All brand names must be composed entirely of pronounceable characters from languages in actual use today

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[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

we all know it's actually pronounced "yiff"

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, you mean that old Linux sound server. Very deep reference.

[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

My argument for this is that gift is pronounced with a hard g, why would removing the t change anything. I think SW was trolling. But you want to know what’s totally bonkers? My coworker pronounced Git with a soft g. WTF my dude?

[–] cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Jithub makes me think of a place you go to get an STD.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Gi (martial arts uniform) and gin

Gel and geld

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[–] slouching_employer@lemmy.one 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Agreed. I think since the “G” stands for “graphics” it should be pronounced like the G in graphics.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

But why? We don't pronounce any other acronyms like that, so why treat GIF different? The U in SCUBA isn't pronounced like it is in Underwater. The first A in CAPTCHA isn't pronounced the same as in Automated and the CH isn't split up to be pronounced like Computer and Human. The second A in NASA isn't pronounced like in Administration and the I in PIN doesn't get pronounced like Identification.

We read acronyms as their own words, not as a collection of the first sounds of each constituent word.

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[–] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I always respond that in that case, "jpeg" should be pronounced "jfeg".

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also .JIF is already a file format and as far as I know, it's pronounced, "jif" just like it looks. So if "gif" and "jif" are supposed to be pronounced the same way, then why do we even have the letter J? Fuck the letter C too while we're at it, get a unique sound, you bastard letter.

https://fileinfo.com/extension/jiff

[–] notnotmike@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago

Oh wow that's actually a really good point!

Now prepare for it to be dismissed! People are too dug in at this point, there's no going back. The trenches have been dug.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

There are so many other acronyms where you don't pronounce every letter the same as their constituent words, I don't understand why GIF is the one people have a problem with accepting. SCUBA, NASA, CAPTCHA, OWCA, etc.

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[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It IS spelled that way

The inventor of the GIF pronounces it with a soft G

Geoffrey

Giraffe

Gymnasium

There are plenty of examples of that pronunciation

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[–] notnotmike@programming.dev 9 points 3 weeks ago

I have the opposite view, but I thought it would be too incendiary a topic to bring up...

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The thing is, that argument doesn't really hold up, because g in English has two major pronunciations.

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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

What a coincidence! This is my favorite hill to troll people on!

It's absolutely meaningless, it just doesn't matter, and people are sooo opinionated about it!

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

If it were meant to be pronounced 'giff' as in 'goober', it would have been spelled that way. You decide to turn an initialism into an acronym, you get what you get.

[–] normanwall@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I would like to buy you a nice jift

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fair enough, LOL, though the second half of my comment still holds. I also need to buy some gin for my giraffe.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd like to see that. Post it in jraphics interchange format.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was thinking a Joint Fotographic Experts Group format.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you take video, post it as an MPEJ.

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[–] notnotmike@programming.dev 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] normanwall@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Giraffics Interchange Format or Graphics Interchange Format? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIF

[–] notnotmike@programming.dev 11 points 3 weeks ago

Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus or Self Contained Oonderwater Breathing Apparatus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuba_diving)

That's the problem with this debate, for every argument, the counter argument is just the same thing but a different example! The only argument that remains is "the creator said so" vs "so what he's lame"

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It always WAS an acronym. That's the entire point of the argument. "G"raphics "I"nterchange "F"ormat.

Nobody turned it into an acryonym, it just IS an acronym. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. The reason it's pronounced with a hard G is because Graphics is a hard G.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

And Photographic is pronounced as /f/, yet we don't insist on JPhEG or JFEG. Language is weird, and people often decline to create an acronym from a set of initials that could theoretically be one ("CIA"), or make an acronym where it may not initially seem natural ("HMMWV").

Choosy nerds choose gif, soft G. :-)

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's my favourite battle. And when the war against AI comes, it'll be because the AI will make a final decision and then decide the other side needs to be ultimately defeated.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Jod Himself could descend from heaven, and decree “actually it’s pronounced jif…” And I’d still continue pronouncing it gif.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
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