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[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ummm yea this girl deserves a pay day for doing their job for them not punishment.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She can deserve both compensation for suffering and punishment for taking her own action. This is premeditated and she didn't need to be there, but his actions clearly contributed negatively to her mental state.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Her morally good action was premeditated? Unthinkable!

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

If you want a society where premeditated extralegal violence is "good", you can always go to Pakistan. That's exactly what people who perform "honor killings" believe.

The developed world got rid of that when duels went out of fashion. The problem with killing someone to solve a problem is that it creates more problems. The person who died has friends, family, children, etc. who will not think your actions are justified. They will come for you and your family.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Obviously you don't have good morals. Vigilantism is immoral..

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Vigilantism is immoral

This is a category error. You wouldn’t say that “kicking is immoral,” or that “driving is immoral.” It just depends what you’re kicking and where you’re driving.

“Vigilantism” is the extrajudicial pursuit of justice. It involves breaking the law in some random corner of the world. However, none of that has any bearing on morality. The holocaust was legal. Slavery was legal. What the Supreme Court is doing now is legal. That has no bearing on whether it’s moral.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Vigilantism” means breaking the law;

That is an insufficient definition of vigilantism.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why is vigilantism immoral but court systems, including corrupt ones, are not? Aren't both simply a way to decide justice? What makes vigilantism inherently immoral compared to other justice systems?

Eta: “Laws are threats made by the dominant socioeconomic-ethnic group in a given nation. It’s just the promise of violence that’s enacted and the police are basically an occupying army. You know what I mean?” -Dimension20

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I mean, it would be nice if all these f****** were actually scared of their victims.

I can't say that just allowing vigilante outright is the right answer, but we could certainly afford to let her go like they let him go. Would be a nice use of a presidential pardon if it applies.