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It feels kinda wrong how quickly some people say they wouldn't kill hitler if they were sent back in time and given the opportunity.

I'm using that scenario because it seems like a common example, but I'm curious about how materialist theory would approach this.

Barring the sci-fi theories around time travel and whether a new timeline is created, where I believe it's fair game to change the past (since it's a new timeline) would it be morally right to improve the world if flung into a version of the past?

My thought is that it would be a moral obligation to help with things and not just be a witness to atrocity.

Edit: I think my question was more - Is it wrong to do nothing if flung into the past when you know what is likely to happen, or is it more wrong to try to prevent or change it?

I ask because it's almost a given in media and general discussion that you don't mess with things on the chance you make things worse by interfering. That argument feels flawed and lib- brained and I don't think I would be okay with a bad thing happening in front of me just because that's how it happened in my history book. Like the idea of standing by and doing nothing in the face of suffering feels wrong especially with something as nebulous as 'affecting the timeline'

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[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I would probably get a brain trust of trusted leftists to advise me on the best course of action. Given what we know about how the conflict with capital went over the course of the 20th century, it would probably involve doing something around the time either before or during the Great War.

Or maybe you could just go back and bring what you know to Marx himself to get his feedback.

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Imagining Marx arrives in the present day, spends six months researching and learning about everything that happened in the 20th century, then writes a 10,000 page unedited mess of a manuscript about what should be done differently (good ending) or becomes hopelessly addicted to social media (bad ending)

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

Synthesis: he writes 10000 tweets about what should be done differently.

[–] context@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

Given what we know about how the conflict with capital went over the course of the 20th century, it would probably involve doing something around the time either before or during the Great War.

cyber-lenin what is to be done if we have a time machine?

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Give Carl a typewriter, Jenny can spend the time she would have been transcribing him writing theory herself