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Kamala Harris gets it. Yes, we should fear Trump—but we should also mock him mercilessly, because it drives him nuts.

Donald Trump is in free-fall. Read this description from Sunday’s Washington Post of how the GOP nominee spent last week: “[A]ides did not want a situation where he was watching the convention every night, getting angry, and then just golfing all day and stewing, according to people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private interactions. Trump also had grown annoyed with the news coverage that depicted him as not working as hard as his opponent, one person who talked to him said.”

If you didn’t know that the article was about Trump and you just read it cold without knowledge of the context, you might think it was a description of parents trying to figure out how to handle an ungovernable four-year-old. So they convinced Trump to get out of Bedminster and hit the road, trading suck-ups with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. In the past, Trump has called Kennedy the “dumbest member” of the Kennedy family and a “radical left lunatic.” Kennedy has calledTrump a “terrible human being” and “probably a sociopath.”

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[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Extra funny because Jefferson had plenty of unintelligible propositions himself, for which he was ridiculed while he was alive

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Like what?

(Not arguing, I just really need a refresher in colonial + early American history)

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Like how you can own people if "all men are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Men and only men.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think it makes more sense if you were mentally fucked up like they were. All men are equal, aka whoever they considered civilized races were aesthetically thought of as equal. Everyone deserves to be happy and to thrive, but of course lesser beastlike races can only do that under the yoke of their superiors.

What a shitty "defense" though right? "He's not a hypocrite, he's just monstrously delusional by our standards."

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

He also thought black people were incapable of being educated. Fairly late in life, he met a black person who actually had the opportunity to be educated, took it, and was every bit the equal to any educated white person. Jefferson took him as an exception to the rule.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wasn’t he also fucking all of his slave girls? Or am I thinking of someone else?

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Well, he raped at least one.

And it is important to establish that it is rape; a slave has no right to refuse consent.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't know about all.

I do know of one, though, that he had children with, and didn't free after he died. A lot of people know this.

What a lot of people don't know, is that she was his wife's half sister. She was the off spring of his wife's father raping a slave. When the half sister was born, she was given to her half sister as property because of the mother that gave birth to her.

Slavery is always monstrous, but it was made even worse by the monsters in human flesh that practiced it in the south.

Remember this story when you have some southern fuck wit try and romanticize that time period.