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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck kind of logic is that? Do you think that people are only capable of being cis or trans? There are several gender non-conforming identities, that does not make them trans.

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

i mean, what other categories are there besides cis and trans? either you identify as the gender you were assigned at birth or you dont.

[–] EightLeggedFreak@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Something something non-binary

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

yea my point is that nonbinary is a subcategory of trans. at least in my eyes. im not sure how else someone would categorize it, but if anyone has other ideas id love to hear them.

Nonbinary is nonbinary. There's certainly a lot of overlap between nonbinary people and trans people, but they aren't the same.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The prefix trans- means to go to the other side. If you aren't going to the opposite side, you aren't trans. There are many other identities that don't totally move to the opposite side, or even subvert the binary entirely.

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that means only 100% MtF or FtM people are trans? interesting take.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What does 100% mean? You identify as male, female, or other. If it's other then it's not trans, it's whatever you identify as. If it's opposite of what you're assigned at birth it is.

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

so someone identifying as a demiboy who was afab isn't trans?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

My understanding is that is identifying as male, right? No one identifies with all of the characteristics of whatever gender they are part of. If you identify yourself as a man and are afab then that'd be trans. It doesn't matter how strongly you identify as a man.

I'm not sure why your 100% thing is there except to try to wiggle out of being wrong. No one is 100% of a gender, because you literally can't be a perfect archetype of a gender.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I don't know if it's your intent or you don't know, but this is transmedicalism and it's gatekeeping that is used as intercommunity bigotry. Trans is an umbrella term that holds transsexuals, transgender, non-binary, Demi, fluid and intersex people under. We can celebrate and acknowledge the distinctions, but anyone who doesnt feel cis is absolutely welcome to the trans label. When some non binary people understand themselves, many see this as a transition from how they identified before and that is absolutely 100% valid.

Please do not tell anyone they are or are not trans. That is not your choice to make and it belongs to every single individual person to say for themselves.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I literally said the term. They are gender non-conforming. Don't impose your beliefs on people that don't want to be identified the way you think they should.

[–] bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How does being gender non-conforming exclude being cis or trans?

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 months ago

im not forcing anyone to identify as transgender.