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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Just learned that the original name for the county seat in Southhampton County, VA, where Nat Turner's rebellion took place, was Jerusalem. The town name was changed Courtland after residents got sick of people in Norfolk calling them "the Arabs from Jerusalem".

I've been thinking about some the parallels between the 10/7 and Nat Turner's rebellion, specifically in the response from Zionists in comparison to the response from US slave owners (and their response to the abolition movement in general). I just got back from touching sand and if I can find the time when I'm not working, I might try to find some juicy quotes from slave owners that sound like they could have come from a Zionist.

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

norman finkelstein made the same comparison in this interview a few months ago https://youtu.be/ELNr_ro97MI?t=12m29s

his main point: abolitionists refused to condemn the Turner Rebellion, much like we should refuse to condemn Palestinians fighting for liberation

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

Contemporary Virginia newspapers here, also good for searching for reactions to the Haitian revolution (searching for "St. Domingo"). Here's a collection of early accounts of Turner's rebellion -

[–] weeen@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The comment at the end of this quote from the French account of the early Haiti revolt is pretty funny

spoiler[A letter by] Augustin Rigaud, which was intercepted at the time of the fire at Port-au-Prince, and which the provincial assembly of the south had the imprudence to make public.

"The parish of Aquin has just accepted the peace treaty, but there is no safety with such perverse men. The blow is surely planned in Les Cayes and everywhere. Take care; leave the city; camp at the slightest movement: kill, ransack, burn, there is no more safety for you.

Our enemies must not take advantage of their perfidy; no arrangements until after the instructions (which were expected from Croix-des-Bouquets). I am flying to vengeance; if my destination is not to die in this expedition, I will return immediately to join you. Camp, and we will defeat the brigands who want to slaughter our party and reduce it to slavery.

Vengeance! Vengeance! I embrace you all: My last word is to avenge myself on these barbarians. Fly to the aid of your slaughtered brothers. Long live freedom! Long live equality! Long live love!"

A declaration that proves how far delirium can lead one astray!


lmao How crazy must you be for not wanting to be enslaved?

spoiler https://archive.org/details/mmoirespourser01lacr/page/194/mode/1up?q=Augustin

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

lmao How crazy must you be for not wanting to be enslaved?

Drapetomania was a nonexistent mental illness that, in 1851, American physician Samuel A. Cartwright hypothesized as the cause of enslaved Africans fleeing captivity. This hypothesis was based on the belief that slavery was such an improvement upon the lives of slaves that only those suffering from some form of mental illness would wish to escape.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What is the context of the letter? I looked it up and still couldn't understand.

[–] weeen@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's a letter to consolidate his instructions to people partaking in the revolt and the comment at the bottom is the french general writing the pamphlet.

It was intercepted by the French after the capital city was set on fire.