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[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

One might argue that a two-party system (with the electoral college the way it is) is not a democracy

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the system devised by wealthy landowners to keep power out of the hands of common people isn't actually a democracy? I'm shocked. Shocked, I say!

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you admit the average voter needs to accept they aren't in a functional democracy and do damage control until the revolution, cool.

[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

And the best way to affect change is to throw a vote at a losing candidate and not, say, elect local candidates who can actually affect political and legal change in the nation. No, just gotta add to the literal hundreds of Stein supporters in making it heard that they vaguely dislike american democracy but are totally fine with the entire system collapsing into fascism because, uh… dont sell gun abroad (or something)

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would argue that. FPTP, you either vote tactically or the vote doesn't count towards the final results. That's not real democracy to me.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

your not voting tactically because your vote counts equally as much either way. There's nothing "tactical" about voting for people who push policies one doesn't support.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, there is, the other option will advance the nation faster into full theocratic fascism. If you cannot tell one of the two viable options is less awful you need to get a clue.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No there isn't. An advocacy for a lesser evil still implies evil. You need to get an education.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're deliberately ignoring the reality of FPTP voting and saying other people are uneducated. Again, please get a clue.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your deliberately ignoring the amount of impact your single vote has. Again, please get an education.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Of the two of us, I am the only one making a decision that would cause my vote to make an impact. You are extremely ignorant of the world and of very basic game theory. A lemmy.ml instance account, of course.