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Even with the new 100% tariff on electric vehicles imported from China, BYD would still have the cheapest EV in the US. According to a new report, BYD’s lowest-priced EV would still undercut all US automakers at under $25,000.

After discontinuing the production of vehicles powered entirely by internal combustion engines in March 2022, BYD has been at the forefront of the industry’s shift to EVs.

Honestly in my opinion it is time to remove all tariffs on EVs under 25k and let anyone who wants to fill that slot in. American car manufacturers refuse to fill the market need.

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you buy a Chinese car that has American tariffs placed on it, the only loser is you. China and USA both benefit.

But if that car is still the cheapest EV I can buy, then everybody wins?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you don't mind seeing Chinese manufacturers taking over another sector by underpaying the people working in those factories...

One of the reasons why cars made in the US and Canada are more expensive is also because the people making them have good living conditions. If you want to see those jobs disappear then go ahead and buy more Chinese shit, don't come crying when China has the monopoly on everything and starts increasing prices in order to get a return on investment on all the subsidies they're currently paying!

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's not a free market if we don't let businesses with crappy business models fail.

If this is about selling livable wages, then that should be part of the marketing of the product. Like bio food.

I also don't believe for a second US car manufacturers are not milking customers with features they don't really need, because there is too little competition.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I also don’t believe for a second US car manufacturers are not milking customers with features they don’t really need

Japanese car makers do the same in the US market.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 2 points 13 hours ago

Along with European and Korean manufacturers, or pretty much every notable car manufacturer in the world. These people are claiming that every car company in existence is just greedy and trying to screw them over except for some altruistic Chinese state-owned companies because they can't buy a brand new car for an unreasonably low price.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Government subsidies from China isn't free market either.

You want true free market? Alright, salaries will need to be the same as in China to compete, how would you like that? All manufacturing jobs in first world countries are gone, sounds nice right? You should ask people from Detroit how that went.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, an unregulated market isn't free.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's literally the most free market possible.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It always becomes monopoly.

One person telling everyone else what's going to happen isn't freedom.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Monopolies and free markets aren't mutually exclusive concepts.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Fair enough. Not all monopolies are bad monopolies. There's a narrow set of circumstances where a monopoly can exist within a market without making that market something other than free.

Government owned utilities for example - natural monopolies that are allowed to exist in a highly regulated state.

Monopsony can also be good for the free market in sectors with inflexible demand, such as healthcare.

But those are exceptions, and not the general rule.

[–] superkret@feddit.org -1 points 1 day ago

Relax, I don't even own a car.