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Being a lefty in the US (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 month ago by RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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I ain't young, but this is my first election where I am a real lefty, and... Has it always been this bad?

The liberal seething is just disgusting right now. You can't be on any place of the internet that has any discussion about politics whatsoever.

If you suggest that the Democrats should be better, then you get called out for trying to make Trump president

If you respond that now is the time to actually put pressure on candidates because they're running for office and in any fucking reasonable place, this is where they would make campaign promises and you can demand stuff out of them, then they say that you're being a fascist.

The liberal propaganda is just mind numbing.

Even the traditionally leftist places on Reddit (a place I visit very infrequently, so small changes add up over time when I visit and see the crazies have come out of the woodworks) are getting inundated with a bunch of "but the GOP is worse", and "we have to compromise" and blah blah blah. Even in some commie spaces.

Like I understand not being a doomer, and trying to actually make things better in the meantime while we build forces for the revolution, but holy shit, it's like Anyone to the right of Marxist Leninists have immediately caved to pressure.

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[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I started noticing it more via twitter after the October 7th thing happened and all the zionists coming out of the woodwork there, who would use the same general talking points, be accounts who were inorganic in their origins, posting history, username, etc.

And I agree, it seems heavily a part of reddit as well; it's just harder to spot at a glance on reddit because the accounts are more anonymized, as is the voting. But the tonality of it (for lack of a better word) is distinctly there. Although it's certainly believable, like you say, that there are fanatics out there, the numbers don't make sense. Many regular people are plain busy and do not have the time to be posting foaming at the mouth imperialism on the internet, even if they wanted to; and if they did, they would articulate it in varied ways based on their levels of ignorance regarding imperialism and conflict and so on, not this stuff where suddenly everybody has more or less the same talking point.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

where suddenly everybody has more or less the same talking point

That could also just be an indication that the liberal imperialist media is very efficient at relentlessly drilling the phrases and talking points that their PR people came up with into the heads of their followers through constant repetition.

A great example of this is how the European media when referring to the Ukraine conflict constantly and in unison repeats phrases such as "Putin's war", "unprovoked", "full-scale invasion", etc. They have been doing this day in and day out for over two years now. For a good chunk of the population, at least those who are not yet highly skeptical of the mainstream media, eventually this propaganda works.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Fair point to make.