I really don’t get it, like, I thought the reason we were all annoying atheists because of a sense of love for humanity, equality, etc. and seeing that Christianity was the most powerful force for regression and subjugation for the last 1500 years or so.

I believed that too, until Elevatorgate and the "Dear Muslima" letter from Dawkins showed me otherwise.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yep, the elevatorgate was the start of me going wtf

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The reactionary rage against even the idea of "Atheism+" damned the New Atheist moment for me. Perish the thought that atheism as a movement actually try to improve society somewhat. No! The purpose of atheism is a sense of superiority against those impoverished, ignorant, superstitious fools! Atheism is cruise control for smartness and total immunity to being tricked or conned! smuglord

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This. Same thing i went through. Eventually i asked what's the point? And for nu atheism the only point was watching Hitchens epically own some nobody with Oxford debate shit on Youtube. I started looking at humanism - but all they cared about was stories about "they're making my kids say god in the pledge of allegiance" or "some southern city is building a ten commandments monument!" No movement that isn't explicitly left wing can ever even imagine the possiblity of a better world*

*actually Sam Harris thinks he's imagining a better world, but its through genocide, holy wars, and phrenology.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sam Harris' cult is so fucked up that they see a "better" world as a vulgar deterministic panopticon of cishet white techbros lording over whatever remnant of the rest of humanity they haven't outright annihilated yet.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Its no wonder that Sam Harris was Dave Rubin's first guest, and was Joe Rigan's original "smart guy guest". He is the ultimate dumb guys intellectual. Like he knows absolutely nothing about anything he talks about.

That's why everything is a "thought experiment." He doesn't know anything outside of his own thoughts

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's a quack and always has been. Even his doctorate was effectively bought with his parents' money, making a foundation that only existed long enough to award him the doctorate. He doesn't do peer reviewed papers; he just makes shit up and his credulous Reddit New Atheist rube followers believe it.

https://rhizzone.net/articles/sam-harris-fraud/

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the second installment, I’ll be making the case that Sam Harris is not only a fraud, but also a white supremacist. See you then!

Hell yeah. Theres so much wrong with Harris it needs a part two

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When Sam Harris said that "there was more scientific advancement in a single zip code of New York than in all the history of Islam" I knew instantly what a fucking hack he was. Those aren't even directly comparable concepts and one is measured geographically and the other in a much more vague and nebulous form!

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

That comparison doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Also, no one in any New York zip code invented algebra or chemistry so even with his premise its still wrong lol