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Being sick enough typically meant spending the day laying in bed, alternately shivering and burning, drifting in and out of sleep, occasionally puking, and that was still preferable to spending the day at school.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 49 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

I know it's idealistic of me, but I still believe that it would be somehow possible to make public schools something that kids want to go to, or at the least don't experience as a low-key and long-term traumatic experience. Tearing kids out of bed as early as schools typically start is where that hurt begins, and it sucks.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's still early but my kid loves school.

I also, as a poor, unpopular student, didn't have a horrible time at any point in my k12 education. I'm not saying things haven't worsened or that they were ever perfect but the idea that the public school system is evil or something (other than teaching pro-US slanted "history" and the weird pledge) is not something I encounter outside of random Hexbear threads, even amongst people with generally progressive views. (Not counting frothingfash here.)

This place is weirdly doomer about schools.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 24 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

As a former educator I am among the first to point out systemic problems and failures of policy and so-called "reforms" from the no-oil years to even worse under obama-sad , where "no child left behind" became "race to the top" and in both cases enriched private testing corporations and charter school conglomerates by expecting kids to fail their deluge of fucking tests and planning accordingly.

That said, "school sux and shouldn't exist at all" is a clownishly bad take for any society that wants to exist longer than a few years. It's "no veggies at dinner, no bedtimes" ideology at its most primordial.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 14 points 5 hours ago

As a former educator I am among the first to point out systemic problems and failures

That said, "school sux and shouldn't exist at all" is a clownishly bad take

hegel "Thesis, antithesis, synthesis!"

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 27 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It is possible!

I went to a preschool called a Montessori school. Montessori systems encourage learning through play and are based on the idea that children's natural curiosity can be used to help them learn. It was a good fit!

Unfortunately then I switched to kindergarten elsewhere and while I was really excited to go learn at school , instead I got in trouble for being unable to sit still or listen to boring didactic instruction and school became a much worse experience.

[–] combat_doomerism@hexbear.net 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

holy fuck glad im not alone i got in so much fucking trouble when i first went to public school for the same reason. one time my teacher took my chair away for the whole day because I kept standing up to do work occasionally. goddamn i hated her even as a tiny kid

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 15 points 6 hours ago

Doesn’t matter if it’s public or private, schools fucking suck. I have to go back to one now and it feels like a fucking cage.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 19 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Foucault was so right it hurts.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Bro I legit have some version of this dream like once a week agony-consuming

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Me too, me too.

Even as a teacher I'd have "uh oh" dreams where for some reason I was on the other side of the classroom or more specifically I forgot where my class was and was late for it and didn't bring anything that I needed for it and screm3

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 8 points 5 hours ago

Perfect opportunity for the "dead fish" classroom management technique

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 16 points 7 hours ago

it's a good goal and is crucial to any potential revolutionary program. schools are basically too rotten for reform though, it's very much a tear down everything and start from scratch approach which is needed.