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Being sick enough typically meant spending the day laying in bed, alternately shivering and burning, drifting in and out of sleep, occasionally puking, and that was still preferable to spending the day at school.

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[–] glans@hexbear.net 18 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

About 15 years ago I had a brief stint as a non-educational worker in a public school. They had a rule that the entire class had to line up in alphabetical order each time they entered or left any space as a group.

To enter or leave the building, the hallway, the classroom. To go to the library, the gym. For group bathroom breaks. For recess and for lunch. Seriously they spent about 20% of the day being corralled into lining up. I don't know how the teachers tolerated it. The kids never cooperated with it easily and by the time the teacher got to the end of the line getting people in the right order the kids at the front had moved themselves around. Everyone going to giggle with their best friend or get away from someone they didn't like, whatever.

We didn't have a rule like this when I was growing up but I did have the feeling it was stuff like this all the time. I literally felt they were trying to brain wash us into being compliant ever since I was very little.

[–] trompete@hexbear.net 12 points 2 hours ago

School is deliberately set up to produce good and bad students. The working class is subdivided into higher-paying higher-status workers, precarious low-wage workers and the unemployed, and schools are tasked with reproducing and justifying these divisions. Pretty sure this can't be done without some pretty fucked up abusive bullying, and so here we are, most are more or less traumatized by school.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 10 points 2 hours ago

School sucked for me because most of my teachers really had no business being teachers.

That and having to sit through religious propaganda, which I hated even at the time, plus in retrospect other propaganda about capitalism and other weird stuff like whether cow's milk and meat are 100% necessary for human beings (turns out the answer is no shocked-pikachu).

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 12 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Every once in a while I would chew some food then spit it in the toilet and pretend I had thrown up. My parents never caught on sicko-zoomer

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I liked school.

I just fucking wish school would stay at school and they'd fuck off with homework. I'm already giving you half of my day, why the fuck you gotta take more from me??

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 28 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I liked learning. I hated school. Sometimes you had good teachers who actually wanted to teach you stuff, other times was just hell (frequently as a result of ruddy homework).

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

One of the worst things about the district I taught at was that the homework was mandatory for me to give out. The testing industrial complex required it, but they were pleased to make it seem like the teachers were the ones being the assholes.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 13 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Were you at least able to maliciously comply by giving piss-easy assignments that could be done in 5 minutes?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 2 hours ago

Even the homework was standardized, so unfortunately I could not do that.

I did give roughly half of the answers without saying I was giving half the answers at the end of many classes, for those paying attention.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 32 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

Getting a fever that would hit the sweet spot where you can stay home but aren't suffering and can play ps2 in a blanket

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 6 points 2 hours ago

Bleh, my parents forced me to stare at the ceiling if I was home sick so I wouldn't fake it. I went to school sick a lot

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 hours ago

Playing the Over the Hedge tie-in game while slightly out of it with a fever is one of my core memories.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 19 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Animal Crossing was my "sick, but not too sick" game of choice. comfy

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 9 points 2 hours ago

You just gave me a very specific memory of being out with some kinda illness for like a week in 5th grade and spending most of it playing GameCube animal crossing

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 45 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

I know it's idealistic of me, but I still believe that it would be somehow possible to make public schools something that kids want to go to, or at the least don't experience as a low-key and long-term traumatic experience. Tearing kids out of bed as early as schools typically start is where that hurt begins, and it sucks.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 18 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's still early but my kid loves school.

I also, as a poor, unpopular student, didn't have a horrible time at any point in my k12 education. I'm not saying things haven't worsened or that they were ever perfect but the idea that the public school system is evil or something (other than teaching pro-US slanted "history" and the weird pledge) is not something I encounter outside of random Hexbear threads, even amongst people with generally progressive views. (Not counting frothingfash here.)

This place is weirdly doomer about schools.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 23 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

As a former educator I am among the first to point out systemic problems and failures of policy and so-called "reforms" from the no-oil years to even worse under obama-sad , where "no child left behind" became "race to the top" and in both cases enriched private testing corporations and charter school conglomerates by expecting kids to fail their deluge of fucking tests and planning accordingly.

That said, "school sux and shouldn't exist at all" is a clownishly bad take for any society that wants to exist longer than a few years. It's "no veggies at dinner, no bedtimes" ideology at its most primordial.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 14 points 3 hours ago

As a former educator I am among the first to point out systemic problems and failures

That said, "school sux and shouldn't exist at all" is a clownishly bad take

hegel "Thesis, antithesis, synthesis!"

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 25 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It is possible!

I went to a preschool called a Montessori school. Montessori systems encourage learning through play and are based on the idea that children's natural curiosity can be used to help them learn. It was a good fit!

Unfortunately then I switched to kindergarten elsewhere and while I was really excited to go learn at school , instead I got in trouble for being unable to sit still or listen to boring didactic instruction and school became a much worse experience.

[–] combat_doomerism@hexbear.net 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

holy fuck glad im not alone i got in so much fucking trouble when i first went to public school for the same reason. one time my teacher took my chair away for the whole day because I kept standing up to do work occasionally. goddamn i hated her even as a tiny kid

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 15 points 4 hours ago

Doesn’t matter if it’s public or private, schools fucking suck. I have to go back to one now and it feels like a fucking cage.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Foucault was so right it hurts.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Bro I legit have some version of this dream like once a week agony-consuming

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Me too, me too.

Even as a teacher I'd have "uh oh" dreams where for some reason I was on the other side of the classroom or more specifically I forgot where my class was and was late for it and didn't bring anything that I needed for it and screm3

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 8 points 3 hours ago

Perfect opportunity for the "dead fish" classroom management technique

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 16 points 5 hours ago

it's a good goal and is crucial to any potential revolutionary program. schools are basically too rotten for reform though, it's very much a tear down everything and start from scratch approach which is needed.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 20 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I have a learning disability when it comes to math and on the regular I'd be belittled in a very passive aggressive way by math teachers (usually men) when I was picked to go up to the board and do an equation or some such. Even being placed in special math classes I still floundered, I don't know if I have some brain damage or what but I just can't do it. Anyway this was way before people became accepting of people with disabilities and I get mercilessly mocked when kids found out I was in special classes. So I tried my damnedest to keep it secret that I was since I felt such deep shame. Anyway all of this compounded on me HATING school. Middle school through Junior High were hell. I didn't start to actually enjoy classes until I got to senior year and I could pick what I actually wanted to learn.

I did well in college though go figure. Economics class was something I was good at (with a handy scientific calculator). Who would have thought years later a business major would be a commie.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 12 points 2 hours ago

I’ve noticed that my math skills improved significantly as an adult. I think part of it was getting out of my bad home life, but I’ve noticed a lot of things just kind of clicked into place (like hand eye coordination, especially) in my early twenties.