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Various thoughts:

  • Around 20 people weren't properly covered by the gender categories, obviously we're trying to be as inclusive as possible and a different approach will be tried next time

  • There were about 600 respondents, which gives us a accurate sampling of the active userbase. If you multiply any number by 3, you'll get a fairly accurate representation of the full userbase each week. This means there are around 800-900 people who don't identify fully as cis each week on this site.

  • Nearly 300 trans/gender diverse/questioning people unanimously agree that hexbear is an inclusive space

  • There was so much data on gender that I was really struggling to find a way to convey the data that wasnt a pie chart, graph, or an incomprehensible kalaeidoscope. If you have an idea on how to beautify the data, you can download the raw data here: https://pad.artemislena.eu/file/#/2/file/xzy4pck8on+oZp9yGRUIezR+/ - I further anonymized this data by removing time of response and any specific comments, I don't think it would be easy for anyone to figure out who is who.

  • There were a couple of text responses that really needed further elaboration, I noted hexbear's rules next to these comments

  • I'll probably be doing a demographics survey sometime in the future, including basic fairly anonymous stuff like "what region were you born in" "where do the languages you speak originate" "would you describe yourself as a POC" "what age range are you in".

  • The percentage of people answering they were cisgender increased by 8% than the previous survey. This could be for a myriad of reasons, such as cis people being afraid trans people will hunt them down in the public thread and assassinate them. Anonymity may have made them feel safer to respond. Regardless, way more people responded this time, which signifies that people felt safer responding to the cryptpad or it was easier to do. The leading question was a bit more inclusive than last time, but I think I'll include both questions (are you transgender / gender diverse and are you cisgender) to see how people respond.

  • We have a lot of people that aren't binary trans on this site.

  • Some of the questions were pretty funky and we got a lot of fuzzy responses on them as a result. In particular "After you realized you were trans/gender diverse, how long did it take for you to begin to act on it?" and "At what age did you begin transition?" caused a lot of friction, I think I will ask more vague questions in the future that lead to a path of more specific questions to capture better data, and to save people time. Questions like "Do you feel your gender transition had a defined starting point?" and some further ones.

  • Around 20 people each week on this site are cis she/hers, which is very low and roughly the same as last time. I feel like if hexbear ever starts hosting other federated stuff (like a federated tiktok or something) and can hook into it natively with lemmy, we'd see a better ratio.

  • I tried to be very sure any data with >2 people on it was clearly legible, I think some people might find it fun that there are others with their same fairly specific classifications per this survey lurking around on the site.

  • Overall I feel like the survey was a success despite some bumps.

  • You can find the other surveys/links here: https://hexbear.net/post/3016455

  • I made these graphs on company time bridget-pride-stay-mad

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[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 61 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

the jokes about Xi save us and defense/denial of worker/minority abuse in China make us look bad, (etc etc) No different than libs defending Klanmala "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" (etc etc) Han supremacism no more acceptable than white supremacism (no shit), Dengism killed wholesome chungus communism, China surveillance state

Wew. Also no one is defending worker/minority abuse (the surveillance state in China I will defend, let's not kid ourselves socialist societies are under siege, were born under siege, etc etc) or claiming China is a utopia. And comparing support of AES to Klanmala support is straight up lib shit (and crying about Dengism is both ignoring dialectal materialism, and your western lowkey chauvinist, dogmatist opinion of AES). cringe cringe

As for the comment about transmisogynism (while I'm not the one who mentioned it), somewhat yeah. And there's def an issue of orientalist attitudes towards anime (as someone who is Asian), there is shit but wypipo/westerners' and other cultures' shit has its own issues. "Asian (specifically Asian) cartoon bad because (insert stereotypes here)" is tired y'all

And yeah I called out people who posted their opinions, anonymously, who I don't know who they are... deal with it xi

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I am once again begging anti-Dengists to explain Historical Materialism denguin

[–] Yor@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

deng-smile

Seriously though, DiaMat and Historical Materialism need to be the first subjects studied by Marxists.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really don't know how you'd square the Dengist healthcare reforms with historical materialism.

Though I've never seen an anti-China leftist seriously talk about them.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the jokes about Xi save us and defense/denial of worker/minority abuse in China make us look bad, (etc etc) No different than libs defending Klanmala "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" (etc etc) Han supremacism no more acceptable than white supremacism (no shit), Dengism killed wholesome chungus communism, China surveillance state

White supremacy is worse for the simple reason that it has been institutionalized in multiple countries and is the bedrock of capitalism. Han supremacy is limited to individuals. The PRC hasn't institutionalized Han supremacy and in fact has taken steps to combat it. Why else would the One Child policy exclude ethnic minorities from it? Like, you could find the mass graves of dead Indigenous children in residential schools. Not sure how anything the PRC has ever done is comparable to that.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

100% agreed, from the start the CPC has been explicitly anti-Han supremacy. And all the cracKKKers and cracKKKer-worshippers are hideous for comparing their crimes- of genocide across the majority of entire continents, of supremacist rule across the entire planet (even in regions not directly colonized like Iran, Japan, Ethiopia, the interior of China, etc- the "extraterritoriality" clauses imposed for instance), to whatever chauvinism may exist in China (which they at least have genuinely worked against).

Everything they accuse China of is projection. I've lived in the prairies and was mostly raised rural there, and I've seen the conditions of the indigenous peoples there. The majority of first nations people I've known- including childhood friends, classmates, etc- were all adopted by white, Christian families, some of them rather questionable at that. I've seen (not extensively, granted) the sheer poverty of the reserves. I've seen and heard the anti-indigenous racism here, the squatter-mentality of settlers whose biases then naturally go on to translate to large numbers of missing (and "missing") indigenous women- and men- which translate to police brutality, to the cases of coerced sterilization and other medical malpractices as gain attention now and then, etc...

CracKKKerdom truly has no shame, no remorse, and absolutely no moral restraint whatsoever (nor concept of morals, simply excuses to justify the maximal amount of violence and exploitation against other humans). The entire west needs de-Nazification/to have imperialism purged from their societies, and by their regimes' derangement they might very well force the rest of humanity to go in and thoroughly purge the illness- I'd hope not, but it's not out of the question and increasingly it seems likely.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After looking at the responses, I could see that tl;dr whining is right above the "Hexbear dot com is full of Burgerlander crackers" lol

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

pretty much lol

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the jokes about Xi save us

I am not joking

xi-reactionary-spotted

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

anyone bitching and moaning about china needs to look at who's building green energy and who's not. we can only afford to argue about capitalism vs communism vs sTaTe CaPITAliSM if there's a biosphere worth living in. western chauvinists can shut the fuck up with their treatbrained critiques about 'omg china also has a carceral system so therefore both sides'

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Couldn't agree more. China has its genuine issues (and I believe- from all I have seen, with this belief only growing the more I learn of the complexities of the Chinese system, that it is on the path to and diligently working to address them- and I say this as someone who used to be a doubter).

But the difference is night and day. China isn't driving its citizenry or even the broader world into greater and more exploitative disenfranchisement by the day (unlike the western imperialist system), rather the opposite, it is lifting its people out of poverty and taking extensive measures to do so even for the most disenfranchised (ethnic minorities, generational poverty, etc), and peacefully collaborating with nations to assist them in doing the same.

China isn't flagrantly destroying the biosphere, leaving others to clean up its messes, and promoting Enlightened Individualismβ„’ of nations where poor developing countries (like China till very recently- and it is still developing) are blamed for using what they need to survive while the history of western excesses (which were at the expense of the global south no less) is conveniently dismissed; rather, it is working with nations to solve the issues of environmentalism and their own material conditions rather than expecting the developing (colonized) world to bask in enlightened, environmentally-friendly austerity, asceticism, and anarcho-primitivism so that their colonial "superiors" can maintain their modern lives without ecological collapse.

China isn't supporting (religious, racial/ethnic, political) extremism and criminality (organized crime and in particular human and drug trafficking) across the entire globe, and it isn't operating with some grand (not-so-hidden, considering the Wolfowitz doctrine) scheme of destabilizing all corners of the earth to maintain perpetual dominance and expansion. China isn't holding a gun to its neighbors' heads, even in the most questionable disputes they are not barbaric imperialists (unlike the west which is literally holding a metaphorical gun to China's head, and to the rest of the world's heads as well). China isn't pushing for WW3, or even pushing for conflict in any geopolitical region, but rather seeking de-escalation and the development of peaceful multipolarity and mutual dialogue.

The west is basically marching the world full speed ahead to environmental and nuclear armageddon, and actively promoting the immiseration and further destruction of all of humanity in the meantime (through further championing the contradictions of capital and trying to maintain hegemony). China isn't doing any of that, it is working towards the opposite- and even if someone really believed in the "evil SEESEEPEE" all of the above is still true- and it could also be said that similarly, none of the BRICS or the global south at large are even remotely comparable to the west in these regards.