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We all knew that Jill Stein was running as a spoiler, but to have someone on her team openly admit that? They're openly aiding and abetting the rise of fascism in the U.S.

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[–] AbraNidoran@beehaw.org 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm not a US citizen, but I know people who are, and they're mostly just pissed and fed up with democrats funding fascism and genocide.

I know, it's the US, this shouldn't be surprising, the opposite would be more surprising, but in this particular case it hits their family.

It's like: option 1, your family is murdered, but no one in this country is affected by it, so no one cares (they sure haven't cared much for the past 70-whatever years) Option 2, your family is still murdered, but maybe rise of overt fascism in this country will compel people to take action?

Anyways, I've obviously spent a lot of energy trying to understand their perspective (I'm not going to change anyone's mind), so I'm just sharing.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Democrats are the problem. Totally.

In case anyone cares, I found the orc.

[–] AbraNidoran@beehaw.org 10 points 2 months ago

Nah, the problem is the fascists.

The democrats are in a tough position. If they did come out hard against the actions of the IDF then the Trump campaign would pounce on that.

Israel has positioned itself so strongly in people's minds as the-same-as-Jewish that large sections of the democratic base would be uncomfortable voting for "the anti-israel party".

(not to mention all the actual Jew-hating groups out there who would 100% take the opportunity to do horiffic hate crimes and claim they were just supporting the Dems)

Ugh, politics sucks.

Keep working on harm reduction, y'all, in any way you have energy for ❤️

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

fed up with democrats funding fascism and genocide

Instead of being fascist and genocidal? It's a weird and stupid frying-pan/fire take on things, as if people can't do simple math.