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We all knew that Jill Stein was running as a spoiler, but to have someone on her team openly admit that? They're openly aiding and abetting the rise of fascism in the U.S.

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[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If there is no punishment for doing it they will do it and keep doing it as frequently as they can.

Edit are these people stupid? Trump banned then from entering the country and regukay tries to stir up-racist tensions against Muslims in general why would they think he could possibly be better on this issue? The guy literally said he wanted Israel to speed up its disastrous campaign it makes no sense to me.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a NJ native, it's sort of funny that nj.com of all places would report on this, given its past conservative leanings.

[–] UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I had to dig to find an actual article about this. I'm not about to start sharing tweets.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago

It's also on the Seattle Times.

[–] AbraNidoran@beehaw.org 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm not a US citizen, but I know people who are, and they're mostly just pissed and fed up with democrats funding fascism and genocide.

I know, it's the US, this shouldn't be surprising, the opposite would be more surprising, but in this particular case it hits their family.

It's like: option 1, your family is murdered, but no one in this country is affected by it, so no one cares (they sure haven't cared much for the past 70-whatever years) Option 2, your family is still murdered, but maybe rise of overt fascism in this country will compel people to take action?

Anyways, I've obviously spent a lot of energy trying to understand their perspective (I'm not going to change anyone's mind), so I'm just sharing.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Democrats are the problem. Totally.

In case anyone cares, I found the orc.

[–] AbraNidoran@beehaw.org 10 points 2 months ago

Nah, the problem is the fascists.

The democrats are in a tough position. If they did come out hard against the actions of the IDF then the Trump campaign would pounce on that.

Israel has positioned itself so strongly in people's minds as the-same-as-Jewish that large sections of the democratic base would be uncomfortable voting for "the anti-israel party".

(not to mention all the actual Jew-hating groups out there who would 100% take the opportunity to do horiffic hate crimes and claim they were just supporting the Dems)

Ugh, politics sucks.

Keep working on harm reduction, y'all, in any way you have energy for ❤️

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

fed up with democrats funding fascism and genocide

Instead of being fascist and genocidal? It's a weird and stupid frying-pan/fire take on things, as if people can't do simple math.

[–] derbis@beehaw.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A supporter said this..? What a non-story

[–] chloyster@beehaw.org 3 points 2 months ago

A supporter who introduced Jill Stein at an event and is a notable member of the party (my former councilwoman actually)

[–] sqgl@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

And yet the Democrats have not even tried to introduce ranked choice voting.

https://fairvote.org