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I think any race conspiracy gives power to Nazis and immediately puts Jewish people at more danger. Making both US news and Zionism antisemitic. That's all I've put together.

I really should've asked this in a post long ago, I just feel embarrassed about not knowing.

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[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dual loyalty but actually if you point out that this is an anti semetic trope and that Jews shouldn't be loyal to a settler colonial state in the Middle East actually it's you that's the anti semite

[–] HexaSnoot@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What exactly is dual loyalty?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The idea that a minority in one country can't be trusted because they might be loyal to another, like when they put Japanese people in camps during WW2

[–] HexaSnoot@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

What dumbass chose the word "dual" for being loyal to only one country? I thought it'd mean loyalty to two countries at once.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It should never be read as, dual loyalty, and always as "dual" loyalty janet-wink. Where the person or people accused of having a dual loyalty are only loyal to one thing and are just faking any loyalty to the other.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

I think it's because there's another layer. You can have loyalty to two countries (e.g. dual citizens), but nationalists clearly don't like that and see it as traitorous and deceitful.

It's applying a neutral thing to someone (on the basis of their ethnicity even if/though it's not true) then saying that thing is bad, actually.

"They're Jewish so they must also have loyalty to Israel which actually means they only have loyalty to Israel."

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

That's a great example of the idea of dual loyalty to use to explain to people in the USA because it's so universally frowned upon today and understood as a barbaric act in the popular culture while being so completely disconnected to the anti-semetic counterpart that it makes for a clean example of the phenomenon. Perfect comparison, chefs-kiss

[–] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

To add to what the comrade said, there is a centuries long history in Europe of Jews being accused of dual loyalty as an excuse to stir up antisemitic fervor and terrorize Jewish populations. The idea only really became common in Africa and the Middle East after the proclamation of the state of Israel and the Nakba which led to the expulsion/fleeing of most of the Jews in these countries who had lived in them relatively peacefully for centuries.