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Anti-Semitic United Statesians in shambles?

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The vast majority of zionists in usa are christian.

If someone supports zionism, then yes the genocide is partially their fault.

Otherwise, stop complaining and join the resistance.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not that it's any of your fucking business, but I'm part of Jewish Voices for Peace.

Also not that it's any of your business, but I can't go out and protest because I'm suffering from a long-term illness which gives me low energy, so I have to keep my activism confined to writing and phone calling.

And thanks for proving my point. I have to justify myself to people like you because you automatically just assume someone who is Jewish is a Zionist unless they specifically tell you otherwise.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not that it’s any of your fucking business,

You're the one who brought it up.

I’m part of Jewish Voices for Peace.

Cool. I appreciate knowing that. I try to spend minimal time online. Thanks for being a decent person.

I can’t go out and protest because I’m suffering from a long-term illness

Sorry about that. I didn't literally mean protest but more resistance. I changed the wording.

I have to justify myself to people like you because you automatically just assume someone who is Jewish is a Zionist unless they specifically tell you otherwise.

You asked if you're to "shoulder blame" for the genocide so I asked about your position on zionism. This is a completely reasonable response.

My conclusion is that you're not to blame for this genocide. Doing much better than most people.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I brought it up specifically to show that people like you assume Jews support Israel unless they prove otherwise. And you showed that I was right.

I bet you'd never assume a Muslim supports terrorism unless they prove otherwise.

Thanks for being a decent person.

I wish I could say the same for you.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If someone asks me if they should be responsible for genocide, and I respond by asking if they support genocide... Am I somehow bad?

You didn't even mention being jewish but it's mostly irrelevant. The vast majority of zionists in usa are christian.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I said nothing about "they." This is what I said:

Am I to be expected to shoulder personal blame for that genocide too? Because the one in Gaza is already apparently my fault because of my ancestry.

And the second sentence makes it very clear that I'm Jewish.

You either didn't actually bother reading what I wrote or you're being very dishonest right now.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I brought up "they" because it doesn't matter if it's you or somebody else. It doesn't matter if you're jewish zionist or christian zionist or atheist zionist or whatever.

If someone asks if they're responsible for genocide, it's completely reasonable to ask if they support genocide. Thank you again for saying no.

I bet you’d never assume a Muslim supports terrorism unless they prove otherwise.

I would advise you cease with the islamophobia though. It doesn't help anybody to promote the narrative of jews vs muslims. Nor the narrative of muslims as terrorists. If you're actually concerned about these things (doubtful), I recommend ceasing with the racist BS. It's a symptom of your extreme privilege.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why did you lie about me deleting a comment? It was a very silly lie when everyone can see that a comment was deleted, so why did you make it?

Also, your "extreme privilege" thing suggests you don't believe antisemitism exists. I hope you realize that.

[–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The way you respond makes me think you intentionally want to get into arguments

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What am I supposed to say? "You're right, I'm a Jew, therefore go Israel!"

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No don't say that. Nobody said you should say that

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Considering that I've already been told outright by someone that I was a Zionist and another expected me to justify that I wasn't, I wouldn't say that.