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Theres enough racist people that hes a candidate

Thats it, lets stop putting our heads in the sand with 'economic anxiety'

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[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, the Irish were made cops so that put them up the class structure

and WHY were the Irish made cops as opposed to the Italians?

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cause they were already partially converted by British colonization. The Irish were papists just like the Italians.

You are proposing the Irish were whiter so they got treated better? That ignores the times in which they were not treated better. I don't think you can construct a clear line through this data.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why have I seen a job application from the 1980s where the applicant could mark down "Caucasoid: Northern European" "Caucasoid: Asian Indian/Middle Eastern" and "Caucasoid: Italian/Southern European"

I don't think the hirer cared much about papism

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can't begin to guess. Is a sample size of one idiot a useful data set for considering American society? Usually not.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have Italian friends whose parents couldn't find houses in WASP neighborhoods, this is a weird hill to die on. Most people can tell the difference between a group of Sicilians and a group of Irish. It's not hard.

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but no one cares any more to my knowledge. So you have a first order experience of them going from non-white to white. Without any phenotypic changes. You are seeing the fake system in fake action. If it was about any genetic factor that wouldn't have happened.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, but no one cares any more to my knowledge.

if racism against Black/Brown people exists, it also exists (to a lesser extent) against people who pass as Black/Brown

If you're applying to buy a house, they can see your name is Salvatori Giupetti
If you're walking down the street, they just see a Latino

[–] FearsomeJoeandmac@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah despite being catholic the irish are still northern european, which is what most us anglos mean when they say "white"

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

ngl it's insane how people ITT still can't see it