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He got me to read the Manifesto and would have hours' long debates with our social-democratic roommate and now this. It's really shaking me up a bit.

He is on the whole defeatist 'nothing will fundamentally shake the imperial machine so might as well pick the wardog with better domestic policies' tip. I want to get through to him but I am getting stuck.

For example:

i also refuse to not vote my conscience but i figured this time its not like doing this abstract process to pick if id prefer -100 points vs -200 points is gonna matter that much if i genuinely believe itll even be slightly better under kamala i might as well

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[โ€“] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

they are and it's worse because their internal contradictions / lack of true explanations make it intolerable for them without understanding why. i get how being a marxist can feel like a curse sometimes but i would never choose the alternative.

[โ€“] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Like housepets on the fourth of July, I think someone here said once