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Vote for the change you want to see.

The Republican party got remade because trumpists showed up and outvoted the party elites. No reason it can't happen for the Left except for laziness and apathy.

If all the progressives furious about the state of affairs now had shown up for Sanders in 2016, I doubt we'd be in this hellish timeline. Sadly, he needed the young progressive vote to show up.

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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Ah, but you see, the primaries are rigged! They're rigged because, uh, um because the democrats are scared of change, yeah, and if we want real change we have to um. We have to uh.

Wait, no, because january 6 was bad,

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

lol did you actually follow the last democratic primaries? Because if you did and you don’t think that shit was rigged as fuck then you’re a fool or being disingenuous.

[–] Shark_Ra_Thanos@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's a show. Has been since Raegan. Technically not a lie but never the truth. In some dimensions, it always was.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 4 days ago
[–] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

LOL, the OP calls out people who complain about the democratic primaries without taking part in them, then you wave your hand so we all turn to look at you, and what do you say?

DUR THEY WERE RIGGED, I WASNT THERE, I DIDNT TAKE PART IN THEM, BUT I AM A GREAT POLITICAL MIND I READ ALL ABOUT IT IN MY PARENTS BASEMENT GOOBER GOOBER!!

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 7 points 4 days ago

So you’re going hard with the “I’m a fool” option I see.

What are you 14?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

They’re rigged because, uh, um

Party Control of Party Primaries: Party Influence in Nominations for the US Senate

Using a simple and easily understood measure of party support, I show that candidates who are less connected to the party are less likely to win and also less likely to remain a candidate in the primary. I find that parties not only are effective in helping candidates win but also are influential in excluding certain electoral options from being presented to primary voters.

[–] nictophilia@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

That's not being rigged, it's a Democratic Party election. No shit someone from outside the party will have less influence.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I cannot read that paper without paying money to a journal. Would you care to provide a summary of the methodology?

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

I am so torn between a trollish 'no fuck you' and a genuine 'samesies' and it's left me emotionally vulnerable in a way I'm deeply uncomfortable with. Fuck you.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bernie did better in caucus states [controlled directly by the Party] than he did in states with primaries.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wonder how he would have done in California if the most populous wealthy state didn't vote 47th.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago

Please stop thinking about Bernie and start thinking about Obama.

Obama had less time in the Senate and was way behind Hilary in every single poll when he started.

If Obama could do it, the next one can too.