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I've asked the Trump voters in my life about "why", and they've all talked about his vision for a better the future. People do have an actual, concrete hope in him to improve their lives in specific ways.
It's definitely possible that there are ulterior motives at play. All these people know I'm a "liberal" from the city, so I don't expect them to just open up to me. But it kinda reminds me of starry-eyed libs voting for Obama: they weren't being cynical, they believed in hope and change. And I think there's a fair amount of earnest hope in Trump voters. Liberals complain a lot about what a fucking vicious asshole Trump is... but I think we've been seeing how vicious libs are too, they just don't let their id hang out in the open all the time like Trump does. It's a perplexing thing, I think all Americans really do want a better future, and are actually willing to believe in someone who promises it. But they're also deeply brain broken, uncurious, and cruel - everyone in the country is just a scratched liberal in the end, especially Trump voters.
The issue is everyone wants a better life for themselves and their own family and peoples. It’s still a minority that is even concerned about the general wellfare of the masses
And there’s a dangerous amount of people who are willing to throw others into the shredder to achieve that goal. That’s what this country has always promoted
I legit think you're giving them too much credit.
I know dozens of people locally whose families would benefit massively from even the modest safety net proposed by new york liberals but they are legitimately more concerned with eliminating the safety net because a minority might move to town and benefit from it even though that's never happened and they are currently benefitting from it.
You're literally doing yourself a disservice if you try to approach them with the assumption they're rational people who just want the best for their family.
My mom is retired and works the local food pantry a couple days a week, she has had multiple disabled people who rely on medicaid come in and gloat about how trumps gonna kick illegals off of welfare and they're gonna have to actually start working (again there are literally zero minorities in our town let alone immigrants)
Agreed. You can’t separate the American people wholesale from settle colonialism and imperialism, it’s baked into the majority
My last job was for a Magat small business owner. Their complaints literally aren't connected to reality. If you "listen to their concerns" it's that a hitman paid by hillary was shooting a space laser at Trump trying to blow up Trump tower for al queda and then you get home and look up the story and it turns out somebody set up a projector to put "fuck trump" on the side of Trump tower for 4 minutes before cops broke his projector and told him to leave.
Unless you have a solution for teachers doing gender reassignment surgeries on kindergartens you aren't going to be able to connect with them on issues.
Very simple solution: MORE FUNDING ⚧️