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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Wouldn't this massively increase the value of people's collections? Trump might pick up liberal supporters because of this lol

[–] polpotkin@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We will likely see the cost of goods from China go up generally speaking because of rising labor costs in China. Additional tariffs will only be half the story for why everything will get more expensive in the next 4+ years.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

rising labor costs

cost of goods go up

I smile when I encounter the Labour Theory of Value

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

MFW people who argue that we should not raise the minimum wage or else consumer prices will go up ironically argue for the Labor Theory of Value.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago

Capitalist mystics, aka libertarians, will often argue that there is no discernable basis for price. It's just whatever a seller and purchaser agree it will be. There's nothing else to know and no need to consider how or why prices tend towards a predictable level. Where do wages and profit come from and why some people get more than others? That's just personal morality reflected as value. Value is absolutely not the product of work.

They'll still also argue that increases in minimum wage necessarily result in corresponding price increases, completely forgetting that profits even exist. They'll also tell you that you don't understand basic economic ideas.

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

supply and demand fetishists

Death to America

[–] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

Basically every economist, including 'Marxian' ones.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

denial of LTV is where the whole "paying somebody to dig a ditch and then fill it back in again is a refutation of Marx because there's no value created there and yet labor was done" thing comes from, which is really a sign that these people haven't read a single word of Marx

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago

The labour theory of value would predict that higher wages don't increase prices, but reduce the rate of surplus value.

The labour theory of value says that prices are most strongly correlated with the labor time needed to produce the commodity regardless of the wage rate.

The theory that prices would increase based on wages is called the prices of production theory, in which price = (1+rate of profit)*(material cost + labor cost). It conflicts with the LTV and this conflict was actually something that troubled marx quite a bit.

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