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Hello users of Hexbear, we wanted to inform you that we are going to be locking the_dunk_tank and dredge_tank communities. We have created two new communities /c/gossip and /c/counterpropaganda to serve a similar but clearly distinct purpose than the dunk/dredge tanks.

Not only is the dunk tank a term that has racist origins, but also many posts there were almost no effort and often times requiring later edits to show how they weren't reactionary, ~~not useful with regard to developing rhetoric and furthering dialectical analysis of that which we dunk upon~~.

To that end, we wish posts of reactionaries to be placed in !counterpropaganda@hexbear.net along with an accompanying explanation (as simple or complex as desired) with the intent of countering the reactionary propaganda in the post body, as of now comments are not subject to the same ~~rhetorical rigor~~ rule.

For the posts ~~that are not "low-hanging fruit'~~ of notable people we ask that you use !gossip@hexbear.net .

These changes are mainly part of a continued effort to remove the racist and misogynistic elements from our community and grow.

Any moderators of the dunk tank or dredge tank that want to be a mod in the new communities let me know.

Any users with questions or comments please use this post, this change was made at the behest of the entire Hexbear mod and admin team. We will be looking for more moderators in an organized volunteer drive shortly, if you wish to submit an application you may send it to me via hexbear or matrix direct messages.

Use this post as a place for discussion to these changes. We will keep things as they are for 2 weeks and then reflect on the feedback, including this post: https://hexbear.net/post/3858346

As a personal addendum I am sorry if ~~the closing of the tanks~~ these changes removes a beloved space on the site and if you want to suggest a community to replace them you may do so at !commrequest@hexbear.net or submit a mod application to take a more active role in shaping the site.

Sitewide or community changes come from proposals put forth from the mod team, discussed, and voted on by the mod team.

Any users wanting to suggest a community to replace the tanks, may do so at !commrequest@hexbear.net current discussion is here https://hexbear.net/post/3858346 or submit a mod application to take a more active role in shaping the site.

You may also consider using !shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml as a substitute for dunk/dredge tank posts as well

The mod statement can be found here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5613033

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[–] REgon@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I already went thru a whole discussion with her about this, so it's just extra shitty of her to redo it from the get-go lol

In this very thread even. But yeah, dunk_tank people are bad and toxic or whatever. This is the type of person who is just great for site culture lol

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I’m like 80% sure she’s probably one of the mods trying to force this silly shit through tbh

The irony tho lol

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

God damn the misgendering while calling you a toxic debatebro is wild; if that's actually a Hexbear's alt, mod or not they ought to catch a permaban for that.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

More than likely its @HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net the writing style and opinions are both 1:1 on top of the shitty reading comprehension

[–] booty@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Just for the record:

Catradora_Stalinism: Carnist/vehemently anti-vegan mod of traa, extremely online and always getting into big slapfights with other users, extremely quick to throw out insults, writes exactly in this style. banned a while back for not shutting up about anti-vegan bullshit, made many alt accounts to troll for a couple days after the ban.

HelltakerHomosexual: Account made shortly after the spam alts stopped, carnist/vehemently anti-vegan mod of traa, extremely online and always getting into slapfights with other users, extremely quick to throw out insults, writes in exactly this style, preferred method of openly harassing people is making a bunch of alt accounts and trolling

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Catradora_Stalinism

The user who made death threats, but didn't get banned because she was friends with a bunch of mods? That user? You're telling me that loser didn't just go away? surprised-pika

[–] Wisp@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably a better place than this to make the comment but w/e. I don’t really care to much about the dunk/dredge tank shit but do think the mod/admin response has been pretty silly. But I’ve seen people brush off that this site can be cliquey as ridiculous when it’s not that uncommon. It is noticeable that certain users get much more leniency for being inflammatory than others

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah it's been an issue for a long time. I really dislike the fact that mod actions are hidden behind automod and that "mod discussions" are closed off to the userbase. Clique shit. They seem to generate a little echo chamber whereever it is they congregate, looking at the dumbass shit said here.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The easiest way to tell if it's her is to just say something good about veganism lol

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

She doesn't like veganism?

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But it's the dunking that is problematic thonk

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's toxic don't you see. Creates a chauvinistic atmosphere, as opposed to what we do, which is create an open and welcoming one.

Honestly all the people who talk about the chauvinism on here are the most toxic losers around. The fact there's not as many cis women as they'd like on here has a whole lot more to do with them, than they'd like to accept.

[–] tls123@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

don't know who that is but banned. can't verify they're not just someone wandering in to stir the pot anyways given account was made specifically for this thread, besides being weirdly confrontational and dismissive

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

Appreciated nevertheless. Sorry about the paranoia