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[–] trebor_project@lemmy.ml -4 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

This should be delivered to Putin, How exactly should the world deal with a fanatic armed with nukes?

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 8 hours ago

You misspelled America

I won't bother listing the countries the US has bombed invaded or overthrown governments in the last oh I dunno 100 years

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 5 points 7 hours ago

Thank you for proving their point.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe the US shouldn't have made such an obvious and stupid choice to escalate the conflict by allowing Ukraine to use their weapons?

[–] trebor_project@lemmy.ml -5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe Iran and North Korea shouldn't have made such an obvious and stupid choice to escalate the conflict by allowing Russia to use their weapons?

[–] robinn_@hexbear.net 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Iran and the DPRK are in no position to allow Russia to do anything.

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Regardless of this, I do not think we should escalate things with a nuclear power.

[–] trebor_project@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Serious question here, but how exactly do you think the world should deal with a dictator armed with nukes? Capitulate at every single threat?

[–] robinn_@hexbear.net 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

I don’t know how the world should deal with Biden, truly. Russia is not the power that is issuing threats. NATO did exactly what they recognized for decades would push Russia to invade. Ask how Russia should deal with a foreign power covertly manipulating their neighbor’s politics to elevate Nazis who would go on to bomb Russian speakers.

[–] trebor_project@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

"NATO did exactly what they recognized for decades would push Russia to invade." Which is nothing.

"Ask how Russia should deal with a foreign power covertly manipulating their neighbor’s politics to elevate Nazis who would go on to bomb Russian speakers." LOL Now you are into delusional crackpot territory.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

errmm, actually, history started in February 2022 ☝️🤓

[–] trebor_project@lemmy.ml -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Putin is a fascist. That is a fact. (so is Trump for that matter) Fascists should be opposed, this is also a fact.

My question is why do you uncritically support fascists?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Putin is a fascist.

[Citation needed]

[–] trebor_project@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

He's an absolute dictator who has his (serious) opponents murdered. Seems clear to me.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago

Right, he’s a dictator who was elected by popular vote, because he’s very popular. Russians have good reason to like him: he kicked the Western capitalist neoliberal shock therapy plunderers out of the country (which is also why the West reviles him). It’s still a capitalist shithole, but at least it’s their shithole and not a neocolonized state anymore.

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We should pick our battles. Do you want to get nuked for Ukraine of all places?

[–] trebor_project@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

So your answer is to capitulate at every threat. Good going.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

What's stopping you from going to Ukraine and fighting?

Everyone talks big about war, they just want someone else to fight it

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

You do understand this is circular logic right? Why should Russia capitulate to every US or NATO threat?

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 hours ago

yeah we lost 90% of the world's population from global nuclear hellfire and the resulting fallout, but for a brief moment there we really showed Putin who's boss!!

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 7 points 8 hours ago

Who cares

Seriously

Would you rather you and your whole family gets killed or the lines on the map say Russia? You still don't own the means of production so same shit different asshole.

There is no bourgeois capitalist cause that's worth the death of a single civilian

[–] robinn_@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago

Your ideology has zero explanatory power in the real world. “Fanatic” means nothing now.