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Full disclosure, I tend to agree with FlyingSquid in the instance that kicked all of this off. I don't have a clear opinion of them as a mod, but personally I wish the LW mods would do a lot more about the "Kamala Harris = Hitler" type of misinformation that gets a free pass on a lot of LW.
FlyingSquid comes across as perfectly reasonable in this conversation. Their arguments that another mod thanked them for reporting stuff, that it's two reports over the course of two weeks which is hardly excessive, and then when the two people couldn't see eye to eye, they said they just wouldn't flag anything, sounds all perfectly reasonable and sensible. For some reason that wasn't okay, and the conversation got personal, with Blackbeard constantly posting these aggrieved attacks about how FlyingSquid was being childish if he didn't continue to report things in someone else's community occasionally, but never anything that the mods there thought was not worthy of removal. And then petulantly refusing to say something along the lines of, "Of course you're welcome to post there if you want" when asked repeatedly if it was okay for them to just post and participate still.
I haven't seen any Discord harassment, so maybe I missed something, but if this is what gets posted as justification for why FlyingSquid is a terrible moderator, I suspect that the "harassment" is more of the same. Maybe it's along the lines of "not saying exactly what I want you to say, or having conversation with other people where you say things I don't want you to say." People are allowed to disagree with each other over what is misinformation, or choose not to report content in someone else's community if they get some hostile responses when they do. Trying to order someone else around and then getting personally insulting with them when they politely tell you "No, I don't agree with how you see it," is ridiculous.
I’m not sure I’d agree that FS comes off as perfectly reasonable because I do get a pretty strong beg me to stay or I’ll leave vibe… but I am amused that OP here read that thread and decided that FS was the aggressor here.
Another one post all comments account, but the first one I have seen with a face pic. Guess it's all hands on deck for the liberals today.
Sorry about your tiny wiener, man.
I fully ack with this statement.
There is a failure to settle what Misinformation is, FlyingSquid can't be "more discerning about flagging/reporting" that Blackbeard wished him to do. YET Blackbeard failed to answer FlyingSquad exactly what he meant by this. And in that little inciting report "equating the US runners to X,Y,Z." is not just an opinion, its defamation, a felony.
Blackbeard had the option to clearly say, "We want to allow people to say any bad thing about the Democrats that they want, even if it seems clearly disingenuous or like a pattern on the part of that particular user. We don't consider that to be misinformation." That would have clarified things and my guess is that FlyingSquid wouldn't have argued with it. Blackbeard's desire to tiptoe around saying that directly, for obvious reasons, and just say "be more discerning," was what led to FlyingSquid's confusion which Blackbeard for some reason interpreted as being hostile and obstinate about it.
It's like a flashback to every boss who gives unclear direction about expectations, even when giving you a bollocking about how you did it wrong this time and even when asked point-blank. Except, FlyingSquid isn't getting paid to put up with it, hence the "I think I just won't participate then" which is probably a lot more polite than I would have been about it.
Well I imagine that a Moderator should have a solid stance regarding, well, moderation. Blackbeard simply didn't cut it. They could have just stepped down, but no, they had to nuke the account, post that screenshot to show their people skills and finally head to bluesky.
It is not misinformation to say that Kamala Harris is the commander in chief of the largest military force in the world and she is overseeing a genocide. The UN has even acknowledged it. Get over yourself, or hop into the dustbin of history with the rest of the people so gormless that future generations struggle to understand their motives.
That is textbook misinformation.
The linkage of Kamala Harris with the genocide in Gaza, persistently and disingenuously, with an apparently-successful outcome of greatly increasing the genocide by putting Trump in charge instead, is one major type of misinformation on Lemmy. If you were coming and saying "It is not misinformation to say that Kamala Harris hasn't even condemned the genocide and is losing Arab voters because of her attempt to waffle on this crystal-clear issue," then that wouldn't be misinformation, whether I agreed with it personally or not. But going off into factual la-la land in order to accomplish your political goals for any particular discussion is absolutely misinformation. Thank you for providing a good example.
Biden literally vanishes for weeks at a time. Biden is a walking corpse who doesn't make any decisions, they have to stuff him full of Adderall to get him to do anything. He can barely complete a sentence, that's why they ran Kamala. They are part of the exact same administration. She's the figurehead now.
The rest of what you said is pure speculation about what you deluded yourself into thinking Harris would change once elected. The US is not just arming Israel. US intelligence is calling the shots. US weapons can't even be used without US intelligence. US soldiers are in Israel, overseeing the genocide in non-combat roles. Maintaining advanced air defense systems.
Israel is practically the size of New York City, and is dependent on the USA for everything. Reagan had absolutely no problem bringing them to heel in an instant. Kamala could do the same by actually cutting off aid.
I'm largely on your side here but
Source? This sounds like Republican propaganda
And just to be clear- I feel that a vote for either Harris or Trump was a vote for genocide
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Blocked your instance for being annoying beyond words and I side with Hexbear in the trans people calling each other transphobic beef (lol), so can't reply directly, but the republican propaganda part of it was saying he was actually dead because he was gone for so long LMAO, him frequently going missing had to become a meme first. I am not your aide and it is not my job to catch you up on the last 4 years.
"Weeks at a time" is probably a stretch but showing up in public is not strenuous enough for most officials that they have gaps at all. Hell when this happens in China or the DPRK liberals become convinced people were executed.