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[–] python@programming.dev 90 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

Was he actually Italian though? As in, speaking Italian, having an Italian passport etc.? Y'all Americans have weird definitions of nationality, just having a foreign sounding last name isn't really enough...

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

White Africans and Black Germans must have a great old time over there

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

White Africans

Charlize Theron is doing fantastic!

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I intentionally chose someone else because fuck Musk.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

Makes sense, then just for fun I'll through in Halle Berry for the African American German haha

[–] Enoblk@lemmy.world 63 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

When someone from America says they Italian or whatever they aren't talking about nationality, it's about ancestry, where your family came from not what county you were born in

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 60 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

No no no no........it's about what kind of food your mom cooked when you were a kid.

Which makes me.......uhhhhhh........clown? I don't know. She bought a lot of McDonalds.

[–] MacNCheezus 28 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t know how, but your comment wove a huge Scottish folk tale in my head revolving around fast food franchises.

in a loud Scottish accent “Let us sing of the day that the McDonalds slew the evil Burger King and rescued Wendy from her castle top prison, which was guarded by the monstrous Jack in the Box!”

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Subscribe to The Juicy Tales of Ronald now. Written by aeronmelon, narrated by Sean Connery.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

She was constantly making lemon meringue pies?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

According to Italian law if you have Italian ancestry, you're Italian. There's a whole process (with many asterisks and exceptions) in which you can apply to get your Italian passport

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 1 points 2 hours ago

My great grandfather was an Italian immigrant. My father is looking into getting an Italian passport. Maybe being a soon-to-be physician will improve my chances of getting one too. (Maybe I'll switch from learning French to learning Italian too)

[–] MacNCheezus 26 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Dude's name is Luigi and his last name sounds like a pizza restaurant. That settles it for me, thank you very much.

[–] python@programming.dev 18 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

You joke, but that kind of prejudice is pretty hurtful in day to day life

[–] shadearg@lemmy.world 29 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's important to remember that the Italians and the Irish were treated as a low rung of American society not all that long ago.

They are legitimate victims of the brunt of American hate.

[–] lemmyknow 8 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Is there anyone Americans haven't hated and/or discriminated against yet? Anyone ever not been a victim of the US?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

sorry but Luigi Mangione sounds like a name a token Italian character would have in harry potter. idk how prejudiced it is to assume this is an italian name.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Is it though? You would be hurt if someone thought you were Italian? You must think pretty poorly of them lol

In America since we came here and took the land from the natives we just assume everyone's family came from somewhere else at some point in recent history. A lot of families are very proud of their ancestry and talk about it a lot.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My name comes from an ethnic background but I dont look ethnic so I always get weird Looks at doctors offices because of it. I think its pretty funny but I guess some people dont find it as funny to be "profiled" so to speak. It really depends on the culture you grew up in and how high tolerance actually was for that sort of thing in your life, at least thats my two cents. I dont mind it but others might.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 25 minutes ago

I'm not trying to hate on you but there's a real problem with using the word ethnic to mean non white. You are certainly ethnic. You belong to an ethnicity.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee -2 points 3 hours ago
[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Everything is hurtful now. Even nationality... jeez

[–] MacNCheezus -1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Buddy, I'm German, I assure you I've been subjected to plenty of prejudice myself. Ever seen Die Hard? So flattering (not).

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

on average, how many "nein"s do you hear from non-germans per day?

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Well, fast food places are a nightmare, for one. It's always "neiny nein" this and "neiny nein" that.

[–] int_not_found@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The word you are looking for is enthnicity. Enthnicity describes the (self-)perceived belonging to a population group. This is of course highly subjective.

There is undeniably perception of grouping in the US based on heritage, where it doesn't really matter when your ancestors arrived, just from where. So from an American POV it makes sense to call him Italian, because he is in the same perceived group as all the people from Italy.

On the other hand from a European POV it doesn't really matter, where your great grandparents come from. You are part of the US-Group, so you are American.

This is not an exclusive US Problem, but a general migration problem & it happens everywhere. Comments like yours are the reason, why people from migrated families feel like they are in-between cultures. Instead of writing snarky comments on the internet, just accept that your perception of ethnicity is part of your ethnicity and other people can have other perceptions.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago)

Ever heard a white American try to have the tired-ass what's your ancestry conversation with a black American descended from slaves? It's pretty awkward. I hate these conversations and they need to stop.

I get it all the time because I'm 7/8 "white" and my last name is pretty distinctively German, even though it's been anglicized.

[–] _LordMcNuggets_@feddit.org 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

More of a

visits Italy for the first time over summer

continues to tell every living soul that their father's father's neighbour's goldfish, was italian

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