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[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (4 children)

When the average right winger treats guns like toys it's a good sign for every leftist to also own guns.

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I can’t fathom how people saw police beating protesters to death in 2020, are decrying the new Trump presidency as the rise of fascism in America, and still believe that the government should be the only ones with firepower in their hands.

Now is exactly the time when the left should be rallying behind the second amendment.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I dont see a problem with owning guns. Its just taken too lightly in the states. To get a gun where im at, you need to get certified - theoretical, physical and psychological tests are done. And no one starts pissing about personal freedoms if they fail these tests. I think you also need to be member of a shooting club. Point is, you need to demonstrate your ability to handle a weapon responsibly. Im not one to confuse correlation with causation but... you dont see many stories of shootings here.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Aren't shooting clubs and the licensing prohibitively expensive? This is just to disarm the working class. If the poor can't afford equal protection they are slaves.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I wouldn't look at it from that perspective. Similar situation with driving licenses, which require first aid training, 20+ hours of driving lessons with an instructor, theory lessons, testing, and costly things of that nature. If you want a gun and are fit to own one, you will not have a problem doing so, no matter your class.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes. The true red blooded American solution; the only way to solve a serious problem is to escalate it out of proportion.

[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Why is arming yourself in self defense escalating it out of proption when leftists do it?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

*When anyone does it.

The solution to there being too many guns is to remove the guns. Not add more.

[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Demonstrably false.

“The actual data show that some of these kind of heroic, Hollywood moments of armed citizens taking out active shooters are just extraordinarily rare,” Mr. Lankford said.

In fact, having more than one armed person at the scene who is not a member of law enforcement can create confusion and carry dire risks. An armed bystander who shot and killed an attacker in 2021 in Arvada, Colo., was himself shot and killed by the police, who mistook him for the gunman.

It was twice as common for bystanders to physically subdue the attackers, often by tackling or striking them. At Seattle Pacific University in 2014, a student security guard pepper sprayed and tackled a gunman who was reloading his weapon during an attack that killed one and injured three others. The guard took the attacker’s gun away and held the attacker until law enforcement arrived. When a gunman entered a classroom at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte in 2019, a student tackled him. The student was shot and killed, but the police chief said the attack would have had a far worse death toll had the student not intervened.

https://archive.is/xQqYY

[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

How would you stop a fascist with a gun that wants to put you in a camp?

If you are lgbtq, on any mental health medication, or a immigrant as a result of natrual born citizenships then you need to realistically ask yourself this question, because that's the stated policy of the new president.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Real obvious answer, you shoot them.

[–] ChildeHarold@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

"how would you stop a fascist with a gun that wants to put you in a camp"

If they were really a fascist, I would shoot them.

[–] 1ns1p1d@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The best way to stop a good guy with a gun is to shoot first (in countries where there's a good chance you might be shot if you're committing a crime)

[–] ChildeHarold@lemm.ee 0 points 14 hours ago