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Lemmyshitpost community closed until further notice (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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Hello everyone,

We unfortunately have to close the !lemmyshitpost community for the time being. We have been fighting the CSAM (Child Sexual Assault Material) posts all day but there is nothing we can do because they will just post from another instance since we changed our registration policy.

We keep working on a solution, we have a few things in the works but that won't help us now.

Thank you for your understanding and apologies to our users, moderators and admins of other instances who had to deal with this.

Edit: @Striker@lemmy.world the moderator of the affected community made a post apologizing for what happened. But this could not be stopped even with 10 moderators. And if it wasn't his community it would have been another one. And it is clear this could happen on any instance.

But we will not give up. We are lucky to have a very dedicated team and we can hopefully make an announcement about what's next very soon.

Edit 2: removed that bit about the moderator tools. That came out a bit harsher than how we meant it. It's been a long day and having to deal with this kind of stuff got some of us a bit salty to say the least. Remember we also had to deal with people posting scat not too long ago so this isn't the first time we felt helpless. Anyway, I hope we can announce something more positive soon.

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[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 115 points 10 months ago

This is good advice; I suspect they're outside of the FBI's jurisdiction, but they could also be random idiots, in which case they're random idiots who are about to become registered sex offenders.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago

They might be, but I'd imagine most countries have laws on the books about this sort of stuff too.

[-] droans@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

And it's something that the nations usually have no issues cooperating with.

The FBI has assisted in a lot of global raids related to CSAM.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

There are few situations where pretty much everyone universally agrees to work together. This is one of those situations. Across cultures and nations, pedos are seen as some of the most vile people alive.

[-] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The FBI has offices in alot of other countries and work with local law enforcement.

https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/international-offices

Can't really hide from them unless you live in North Korea or Russia

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Wait, is this like China having police offices in other countries?

I knew the US collects taxes on their citizens no matter where they live, but isn't this kind of excessive? Wasn't INTERPOL supposed to take care of international crime?

[-] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For more than eight decades, the FBI has stationed special agents and other personnel overseas. We help protect Americans back home by building relationships with principal law enforcement, intelligence, and security services around the globe.

It is similar to China's international police but keep in mind quite a few other countries have a similar setup

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I'm just surprised that it's FBI personnel, I thought the CIA was in charge of international affairs, with INTERPOL acting as liaison for the FBI with other countries.

IIRC in the EU we have EUROPOL acting as liaison between the national law enforcement branches, and while there is nothing stopping personnel from one country to enter another, I don't think they do. But maybe that's more like the state vs. federal jurisdictions in the US. On the other hand, it's been some time since I've looked deeper into it, and things keep changing.

[-] CantSt0pPoppin@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

I have to wonder if Interpol could help with issues like this I know there are agencies that work together globally to help protect missing and exploited children.

[-] GeekFTW@kbin.social 30 points 10 months ago

'Criminal activity should be reported to your local or national police. INTERPOL does not carry out investigations or arrest people; this is the responsibility of national police.'

From their website.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

What the hell do they actually do then?

[-] GeekFTW@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Interpol provides investigative support, expertise and training to law enforcement worldwide, focusing on three major areas of transnational crime: terrorism, cybercrime and organized crime. Its broad mandate covers virtually every kind of crime, including crimes against humanity, child pornography, drug trafficking and production, political corruption, intellectual property infringement, as well as white-collar crime. The agency also facilitates cooperation among national law enforcement institutions through criminal databases and communications networks. Contrary to popular belief, Interpol is itself not a law enforcement agency."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Huh. Thanks!

[-] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

The FBI reports it to interpol I believe, interpol is more of like an international warrant system built from treaties.

[-] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

FBI would be great in this case tbh. They have the resources.

[-] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 10 months ago

Perhaps most importantly, it establishes that the mods/admins/etc of the community are not complicit in dissemination of the material. If anyone (isp, cloud provider, law enforcement, etc) tries to shut them down for it, they can point to their active and prudent engagement of proper authorities.

[-] Railing5132@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

More importantly, and germaine to our conversation, the FBI has the contacts and motivation to work with their international partners wherever the data leads.