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Does anyone else feel like a lot of the communities on Reddit are utterly lacking in Gray and Grey thinking? Am I wrong for wanting nuanced thinking? (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 week ago by TheChemist@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

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Regardless of what that community is about, a good amount of the members seem to be content with simply repeating existing talking points, making statements with nothing indicating say, maybes or showing another person's perspective. Is Reddit just full of Echochambers?

I admit, even a lot of supposedly leftist subreddits show barely anything more than black and white thinking, something that disturbs me, as a gray thinker. They seem to refuse to think of say, what would lead to someone to at first be a chud. In fact, a lot of those leftist subreddits show signs of being more liberals than leftists.

It makes me think: Am I closer to being a chud than a leftist, if I have gray thinking, which causes me to want to be informed as to why say, a non leftist would be annoyed with corporate run cultural wars? Am I wrong for being troubled by black and white thinking on supposedly leftist subreddits? Am I just projecting by thinking "I would not make so bold a statement."?

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[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what is gray thinking, and what are the black and white thinking that you are annoyed about? this is the first time im hear the term, makes me think of enlightened centrism

[–] TheChemist@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I am often annoyed that lots of people say, wholeheartedly accept representation of diverse individuals, without considering that writers might not be creating them for the good will of it, but are only in it for the money. Said writers might make characters halfheartedly, or not care about the character at all.

[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Could you give some examples of what you feel are half-hearted diverse characters, or those created by writers just for the money?

[–] TheChemist@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, Disney often makes characters that often come off as token characters, only to then censor said characters for the sake of international markets. Such as Lefou in the Live Action Remake of Beauty And The Beast. His sign of being officially homosexual was in a very easy to miss moment. I have also heard that, they did a similar thing for the lesbian couple in Lightyear, showing it in another form of blink and you miss it scene, and removing it for some international markets. Not to mention that companies would likely no longer make characters like that if they aren't profitable.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Writers who make it to the professional level aren't doing their job for goodwill, the whole thing is for money. No big corporation producing commercial art gives a single shit about representation for moral reasons, they are making a product, and ensuring that it appeals to its target demographic and is broadly inoffensive to people they believe are likely to buy it.

We haven't yet managed to do away with this, and a soulless profit machine that includes diverse characters is better than one that doesn't.