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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Do yourself a favor and never watch Seinfeld.

If you take away the laugh track, it is astoundingly clear that the main cast are all just evil, narcissistic sociopaths, they never do anything that doesn't benefit themselves, and they have no problem at all ruining other people's days or even lives, their metric for whether or not something was a good idea or not is entirely whether it worked out well for them...

... ironically with the exception of Kramer, who actually attempts, from time to time, to do good things for other people which will not benefit himself, he just goes about them in often dubious ways.

See, this is why I can't watch shows like The Office. My sense of empathy and justice kick in hard and I just can't laugh at what's going on. Instead I'm just cringing and dying of sympathetic embarrassment, non-stop, the entire time.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 8 points 14 hours ago

Wasn’t that the point of the show? I remember it was renowned for being one of the first (if not the first) sitcoms where the characters were meant to be disliked.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Always Sunny just leaned into this, and made you fully aware that the main characters are sociopaths. They literally show the progress of how they ruined the lives of the people around them. That’s why I love that show. It’s a perfect example of everything not to do in life if you want to be happy and fulfilled.

[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What I also like about Sunny kinda like Seinfeld is you see the progression from the beginning in the show where they're sociopathic but still kinda sensible and how overtime they just get more and more unhinged.

In Seinfled, all 4 of them eventually inadvertently kill someone.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In Seinfled, all 4 of them eventually inadvertently kill someone.

Wait really? That's the first I'm hearing of this. I used to watch a ton of Seinfeld back in the day but don't remember any deaths.

[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Kramer: indirectly kills Pinkis the dry cleaner and Marty Benson.

Elaine: indirectly kills Russell Dalyrmple (makes him suicidal after dating her)

George: indirectly kills Susan (cheaped out on wedding invitation envelopes) and Peterman' mom (BOSCO!)

Jerry: indirectly kills Fulton (literally makes him laugh to death) and Manya (the pony remark)

My autism knows no bounds. They actually have more deaths on their hands. I just don't have the energy to look for it.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Jerry Seinfeld making someone laugh themselves to death is rich.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Amazing! I'm gonna have to look these up on YouTube.

[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Even with the laugh track, they are clearly sociopaths. Which is why Always Sunny in Philadelphia is Seinfeld on crack.

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

I mean, the show literally ends with them all going to prison for generally being pieces of shit. They're not meant to be role models.

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s why many people didn’t like the finale. At the end, they basically shove it in your face and say “Look- You’ve been laughing and empathizing with shitty people. Look at how horrible they are” and folks didn’t like the wakeup call.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I hated it for being a clip show.