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[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I would be interested less in who did it (because no matter what the president signs, if people think the CIA won't still hide shit, well... share the magical drugs with me!) and more if we can get like concrete, recorded official reasons why JFK was shot.

A lot of the assumptions about their involvement hinge on known resentments between the Kennedy bros and the intelligence agencies. There's "the whole Bay of Pigs thing" (Nixon quote) which obviously drove a huge wedge between them. Plus JFK was circumventing normal communication lines during the missile crisis to speak with the USSR. Basically says to all his little generals and directors and such like "I don't trust you psychos. I'll just handle this personally in the background."

Anyway, not trying to paint JFK as like a "peaceful" guy. He wasn't. He spent his career consistently running as a democrat on a platform of "I hate commies more than republicans!" (Like Nixon) There seems to be some evidence he changed at least partially right before getting his head blown off. He was more open to talks with Castro anyway. Then blammo.

If the CIA does admit it finally, I'd like to know when the decision was made and reasons why. But obviously this is a pipedream. They ain't releasing that even if it ever existed. And all the accomplices have been dead for a decade or longer at this point.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 25 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

my personal pet theory is that the kennedys had made public enemies of certain east coast organized crime syndicates that had maintained connections with the intelligence community since their allowed infiltration of organized labor. and while maybe the military and The Company didn't explicitly order Kennedy to be assassinated, it was facilitated through their networks, connecting the groups with the reactionary motives (exiled cuban compradors & east coast organized crime figures) and means with somewhat of a blessing.

i base this entirely on what would be most embarrassing if it were ever become fully unraveled.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 16 hours ago

Gonna be a huge year for Italians if the CIA confirms the Italian mob whacked a president

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 21 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Imo, firing Dulles was the red line.

[–] picklemeister@hexbear.net 22 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

yes, this is where i sit. the Dulles brothers had made a life's work out building an entire world order and they weren't going to let some jumped up bootlegger's son take it apart. even the milquetoast "maybe we shouldnt do interventionism and arms dealing everywhere" concept of a concept from Kennedy was enough to start the alarm bells ringing - actively pushing back against Dulles was, in the minds of the machine they'd built, absolutely unthinkable

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 15 points 16 hours ago

Also Dulles was on the investigative committee, for some reason fry

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 17 hours ago

That's a paddlin